Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Jim Johnson]

4 minutes ago, USFBULL_08 said:

You'll have to connect those dots for me in regards to UCF to the big 12.

60 years ago there was no TV money to sway fans --> politicians.

USF was blocking UCF from joining the Big East ... even if it was informal.  UCF alumni lawmakers rasied a stink and publicly shamed USF into being the one to invite UCF to join the Big East as it was dying (it was still the Big East in 2011).  If UCF never joined the Big East, they would never have advanced - no Fiesta Bowl, no Peach Bowl, no Scott Frost - and therefore would not have been invited to the Big 12.

Edited July 1, 2022 by Jim Johnson

[Friscobull]

2 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

USF was blocking UCF from joining the Big East ... even if it was informal.  UCF alumni lawmakers rasied a stink and publicly shamed USF into being the one to invite UCF to join the Big East as it was dying (it was still the Big East in 2011).  If UCF never joined the Big East, they would never have advanced - no Fiesta Bowl, no Peach Bowl, no Scott Frost - and therefore would not have been invited to the Big 12.

Different circumstances, they were trying to help a school get promoted c not stopping a school from getting promoted UW and O. 

[Jim Johnson]

1 minute ago, Friscobull said:

Different circumstances, they were trying to help a school get promoted c not stopping a school from getting promoted UW and O. 

Similar circumstances. They are trying to keep their state schools on the same level.

[Brad]

10 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

We have one however we started it about 100 years after most of the others. 

Right and Oregon will leave Oregon state as fast or faster UCF left the "War On I4".

[Bull Nut]

[Friscobull]

6 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

Similar circumstances. They are trying to keep their state schools on the same level.

Different circumstances, money is at a ridiculous level that no lawmaker can block this and live to see another day.

[USFBULL_08]

24 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

USF was blocking UCF from joining the Big East ... even if it was informal.  UCF alumni lawmakers rasied a stink and publicly shamed USF into being the one to invite UCF to join the Big East as it was dying (it was still the Big East in 2011).  If UCF never joined the Big East, they would never have advanced - no Fiesta Bowl, no Peach Bowl, no Scott Frost - and therefore would not have been invited to the Big 12.

C'mon - we had how many years to invest in the program before UCiF got into the Big East(really AAC)? Even so, we didnt have enough political influence compared to a smaller UCiF in FL to stifle it? That is on USF.

Let us look at who has left us behind: Cincy, Lville, TCU, Houston, UCiF, everybody in the Big East except UCONN. Utah and BYU were in the mountain west when we joined the big east.

Even when they did get in our conference we did nothing to help ourselves. The admin/coaches/school got beat and now we are where we are. This is our problem not a politician or anyone else's fault.

Now we sit here at another inflection point which the school still hasn't prepared themselves for another round of expansion other than building facilities 20 years too late hoping the market angle will help us. Sure we won some games early\quickly, but nobody cares.

 

Sorry venting - but really we\USF didnt do our job at the end of the day. Nobody else's fault.

[Jim Johnson]

 

[Ghostbuster]

1 hour ago, Jim Johnson said:

Jeff Ermann broke the news on Maryland to the Big Ten... so he has some well-placed sources.

Notre Dame, having just lost a coach to $$$, probably learned the hard way about not having the strongest conference/media deal.  I bet they flip.

When the ACC loses ND that might be enough to spook them into expanding.  But I still don't see why they would want USF (and 3 Fla teams)....until FSU/Miami bail.

[Jim Johnson]

1 minute ago, Ghostbuster said:

Notre Dame, having just lost a coach to $$$, probably learned the hard way about not having the strongest conference/media deal.  I bet they flip.

When the ACC loses ND that might be enough to spook them into expanding.  But I still don't see why they would want USF (and 3 Fla teams)....until FSU/Miami bail.

If they lose ND, they will lose more than ND.  ND has the same Grant of Rights contract as all of the other schools, just not as expensive because it doesn't include football.  If ND can get out of their GOR, then so can FSU, Clemson, UNC, etc.