WhoRUSF Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bullrush33 said: Absolutely for soldiers the rules of engagement were to shoot only when fired upon with an aimed shot. It would have had to wiz by my head to return fire. For a police officer which is domestic is completely different. You dont know when a person is going to become deadly. They can fire based on perceived threat to life. They walked Jacob all the way around the vehicle. The family was screaming and the police told him to stop. He had multiple times to make different choices. Both life’s are valuable and it’s easy to say they didn’t have a gun after the event but in the moment it was a unknown and training and procedure kicked in. This is very important what I am about to say: Jacob had the knife while walking from one side of the vehicle to the other. He also admitted to such. That is why guns were drawn on him. Thank you for your service!! I can agree with everything you've said while also adding that as I watch this video, I think I could have prevented that death by slamming him. There were 3 cops. Get big guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,808 Reputation: 793 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, WhoRUSF said: I can agree with everything you've said while also adding that as I watch this video, I think I could have prevented that death by slamming him. There were 3 cops. Get big guys. But he had the knife in his hand. How do successfully tackle someone with a knife without someone getting stabbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSF Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Bullrush33 said: But he had the knife in his hand. How do successfully tackle someone with a knife without someone getting stabbed? I thought the knife was in the truck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,808 Reputation: 793 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted August 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, WhoRUSF said: I thought the knife was in the truck? Nope he was carrying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,808 Reputation: 793 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Bullrush33 said: Nope he was carrying it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,918 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted August 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, WhoRUSF said: Amen brother. I just know if I'm running a police station (which you're right, I'm probably not qualified to do either) I'd consider it a failure to have somebody die, and I'd be looking for every route to avoid that. As I'm sure they try to do already. But another point to this is there is no incentive structure to really punish departments with mishaps like this. Even now, they barely started punishing the cop individually for it, which I think more of the blame should go higher in the department. They need to be trained better. I agree the accountability has been lacking and I blame the public unions for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,918 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted August 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, WhoRUSF said: I can agree with everything you've said while also adding that as I watch this video, I think I could have prevented that death by slamming him. There were 3 cops. Get big guys. I feel I can kick everyone’s ass on this board but I don’t like to tussle with a criminal with a Glock in my hand or on my hip. If they wrestle it away from you then you are dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,087 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, DELdaBull said: Cops more often than not escalate situations than de-escalate. My opinion is this is true and certainly so when someone does not respect their authority and chooses to resist arrest or do worse. They meet aggression with aggression. My guess is that is a trained response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSF Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bullrush33 said: I try to stay neutral on these because I dont know all the facts, I wasn't there, dont know the lead up, why he was being questioned, his body language, nothing. Just a short short clip. But wow, youd think something that caused so much protest would be a little easier to defend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 28, 2020 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,087 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, BulledOver said: Dam....You get a salary?? WHAT!!! again... He's on here enough, wouldn't you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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