ajusf16 Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 2,558 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/2009 Share Posted December 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: To an extent yes, but, he can also sit at home doing nothing and they have to pay him. Even under a back-loaded contract, they get out of some of that liability. Again, he could just say... you know what... I will take 2 years off and Texas has to pay him every dime. Anyone hiring Strong is a favor to them. Has to make an effort to find employment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Are We Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 217 Content Count: 2,495 Reputation: 192 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/23/2003 Share Posted December 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: Read the termination without cause portion of the contract. Nothing says UT can force him to take a job, force him to make $xx, or take away buyout under any circumstances. The *only* thing they could say is he is violating this phrase... "coach acknowledges that he will minimize the payments due to him...". So, they could say that a back-loaded deal is not in good faith. Still, it would be hard to argue a 4 year deal with steps in pay... year 1 - $1M, year 2 - $1.5M, year 3 - $2.25M, year 4 - $3.5M or something like this... It's still roughly $2M per year for us, which we need to pony up for a good coach, is defensible with them, and everyone wins. Nothing says that he has to take the highest offer either, so, as long as he is diligently seeking employment, he's good. ... which brings up a potential issue... what if he wants to sit out a year, but, he's interviewing to prove that he is trying to "minimize the payments", but, couldn't find anything that felt like the right fit... "Coach agrees to make every reasonable effort to obtain other employment as long as the university has an obligation to make payments". If Charlie tries to sit it out for two years Texas can fight paying him. I hope USF is not just a "Reasonable attempt to obtain other employment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBullies Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,461 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2006 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Clearly UT would be arguing this clause, and it is probably mucking things up... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisingFenix Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 433 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/13/2012 Share Posted December 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheBullies said: Simple, HE isn't minimizing the payments... USF is. But does he have a responsibility to negotiate the highest salary he can? I think he does, but that's hard to quantify or prove. Maybe Texas sent a chaperone along and said, "Hey Charlie, you make whatever deal you see fit, but if our guy isn't satisfied with the deal, we may have to take this to court and hold our payments to you until a judge decides if you really fulfilled your obligation to us." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatboykane Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 26 Content Count: 740 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/26/2009 Share Posted December 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, E.T. said: My source is telling me that those are the terms he just agreed to for being the HC at USF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajusf16 Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 2,558 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/2009 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 minute ago, thatboykane said: My source is telling me that those are the terms he just agreed to for being the HC at USF. Sounds similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBullies Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,461 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2006 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 minute ago, RaisingFenix said: But does he have a responsibility to negotiate the highest salary he can? I think he does, but that's hard to quantify or prove. Maybe Texas sent a chaperone along and said, "Hey Charlie, you make whatever deal you see fit, but if our guy isn't satisfied with the deal, we may have to take this to court and hold our payments to you until a judge decides if you really fulfilled your obligation to us." They would probably argue that... but if I'm a potential employer and I say this is your offer... and he can't control that aspect of things, even if the offer is in his favor (backloaded). But yes, I think you're on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Are We Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 217 Content Count: 2,495 Reputation: 192 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/23/2003 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 minute ago, RaisingFenix said: But does he have a responsibility to negotiate the highest salary he can? I think he does, but that's hard to quantify or prove. Maybe Texas sent a chaperone along and said, "Hey Charlie, you make whatever deal you see fit, but if our guy isn't satisfied with the deal, we may have to take this to court and hold our payments to you until a judge decides if you really fulfilled your obligation to us." Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted December 9, 2016 If he owns a house in Lakeland where was he flying in from? Lakeland to Tampa seems like a wasted airport trip. Sorry out of the loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBullies Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,461 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2006 Share Posted December 9, 2016 The threat of litigation and deep pockets to fund the litigation is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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