usfgrad84 Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted October 3, 2015 If you have not seen the game yet it is hard to understand Flowers stat line. It is not a true indication of what you would expect of a QB. 3 of the completions were the little touch passes. Completed to "the open" receiver at least 2 inches away.The majority of the passing attempts didn't even happen until the last 2 drives when the DBs were playing 10 yards off to avoid a quick strike TD and Flowers was dumping off passes either behind the LOS or 2 to 3 yards downfield. Flowers did have 3 very nice completions. The pass downfield to Price was really his best pass ever. He threw a nice curl to Adams and the the TD to Dillon. My issue with having Flowers as the QB is that I don't see a great running QB there. Maybe he is a better scrambler, but he is far from dynamic. Maybe he is better at taking high snaps or better at handing off than Bench, but certainly not a better passer. I am not knocking Flowers ability, what I am saying is for the 20 or so yards he brings to the running game his lack of passing ability limits the offense. Not even in actual passing productivity, but more in threat of what they can do. As we get deeper into games and we show no passing threat at all the defense drops 8 and even 9 in the box and take away all of our running game. This is why we do well early and die in the 2nd half. 2-13 on 3rd down conversions. That is a key stat. I would like to see what this offense can do with a more balanced attack from the start. Either with Bench or give Flowers a bigger play book so the running backs have space to run. We are not beating anyone running straight ahead for 4 quarters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,661 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted October 3, 2015 So... I am finally on the side that Taggart needs to go... that play calling last night -- as it has been since he came here -- was worse than Tecmo Bowl.However, we lost by one score (while covering the spread) against the best team in the conference while holding them to less than half of their normal point total... that bought Taggart another week or two right the ship. welcome aboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Has the balls but no moneynot the old money excuse again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Agree with Smazza here ^ . How many more loses can we afford? Each loss cost us more fans (tickets sales, donations, Jerseys, memorabilia, MONEY) Doing nothing is costing us TOO much, we Cant AFFORD to do nothing. Time to rip the band aid off and stop the hemorrhage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,137 Reputation: 4,642 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Agree with Smazza here ^ . How many more loses can we afford? Each loss cost us more fans (tickets sales, donations, Jerseys, memorabilia, MONEY) Doing nothing is costing us TOO much, we Cant AFFORD to do nothing. Time to rip the band aid off and stop the hemorrhage.I am checking in to see if he has been fired yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,732 Reputation: 10,959 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 3, 2015 CWT hand picked QF to be his QB, he is doing what he thinks is giving QF the best opportunity to win. He sees QF throw everyday in practice and basically knows he will be picked so he calls almost all his plays to be behind the line of scrimmage. It's on CWT but not for the reason most are blaming him for...Haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but I'm sure "he calls almost all his plays to be behind the line of scrimmage" is a bit of an exaggeration, like all those "nice throws" SB made in the MD game. Play calling tonight was the biggest culprit .... that and the refs.Lay off Bench. He didn't know he was going into the game and he didn't have time to warm up. Then the coach that calls all running plays for 1 QB wants him to light it up and calls passing plays for a cold QB. Just like last night's game wasn't on QF, Bench gets a pass on that MD game. It is BS that he was told by Tags he was playing in that game. Tags memory was off by a game. It was the FSU game. That's just not true. He warmed on the sideline at some point in that 3rd quarter because I saw him doing it and was wondering about it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Throwing a football on the sideline for a cpl of minutes is not Warming up to play in a real game. He needs reps with the first team, chance to get in a groove with the players around him, a chance to get up to Game speed ect.... He has been set up to fail , like the rest of the team ( due to Tags and his play calling and IN GAME management) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,732 Reputation: 10,959 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Throwing a football on the sideline for a cpl of minutes is not Warming up to play in a real game. He needs reps with the first team, chance to get in a groove with the players around him, a chance to get up to Game speed ect.... He has been set up to fail , like the rest of the team ( due to Tags and his play calling and IN GAME management)How else does a qb warm up before going into a game?? So you're of the camp that CWT deliberately doesn't prepare SB, have him warm up and then throws him into a game because he's setting him up to fail .... even if that means the team fails ............. I got no response for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Throwing a football on the sideline for a cpl of minutes is not Warming up to play in a real game. He needs reps with the first team, chance to get in a groove with the players around him, a chance to get up to Game speed ect.... He has been set up to fail , like the rest of the team ( due to Tags and his play calling and IN GAME management) How else does a qb warm up before going into a game?? So you're of the camp that CWT deliberately doesn't prepare SB, have him warm up and then throws him into a game because he's setting him up to fail .... even if that means the team fails ............. I got no response for that. you just responded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 3, 2015 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,732 Reputation: 10,959 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Throwing a football on the sideline for a cpl of minutes is not Warming up to play in a real game. He needs reps with the first team, chance to get in a groove with the players around him, a chance to get up to Game speed ect.... He has been set up to fail , like the rest of the team ( due to Tags and his play calling and IN GAME management) How else does a qb warm up before going into a game?? So you're of the camp that CWT deliberately doesn't prepare SB, have him warm up and then throws him into a game because he's setting him up to fail .... even if that means the team fails ............. I got no response for that. you just responded I hate when I do that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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