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We are not in as bad financial shape as our brothers to the east

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SquareKnight is correct - the figures don't include student fees. 

 

That being said, it is only a slight tweak to the statement to "we require less from our students in terms of fees than UCF to breakeven". 

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Those figures are 2 years old. Here's newer numbers, in the last fiscal year, USF only has 2100 donors, almost half of UCF's 4100 and puts us at 11/12 in the AAC, only ahead of Navy.

http://www.usforacle.com/news/view.php/845490/Harlan-We-cant-do-this-with-a-half-empty

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Bull Daly....

 

The Alabama Board of Trustees, based in Tuscaloosa, also manages UAB and UA-Huntsville.  They don't want even the most minute of competition for Alabama when it comes to anything involving football.  That's why UAB is forever in the rut it's in.

 

Thankfully South Florida and UCF are not extensions of the University of Florida, otherwise we'd be in the same situation.

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Bull Daly....

 

The Alabama Board of Trustees, based in Tuscaloosa, also manages UAB and UA-Huntsville.  They don't want even the most minute of competition for Alabama when it comes to anything involving football.  That's why UAB is forever in the rut it's in.

 

Thankfully South Florida and UCF are not extensions of the University of Florida, otherwise we'd be in the same situation.

 

If so, then they also manage Auburn, so your logic clearly has a flaw

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Bull Daly....

The Alabama Board of Trustees, based in Tuscaloosa, also manages UAB and UA-Huntsville. They don't want even the most minute of competition for Alabama when it comes to anything involving football. That's why UAB is forever in the rut it's in.

Thankfully South Florida and UCF are not extensions of the University of Florida, otherwise we'd be in the same situation.

If so, then they also manage Auburn, so your logic clearly has a flaw

No... Auburn is a separate entity from the UA system.

UAB would be much like FGCU before the split from USF. While they do a lot on their own they still are under the umbrella of the University of Alabama system.

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Bull Daly....

The Alabama Board of Trustees, based in Tuscaloosa, also manages UAB and UA-Huntsville. They don't want even the most minute of competition for Alabama when it comes to anything involving football. That's why UAB is forever in the rut it's in.

Thankfully South Florida and UCF are not extensions of the University of Florida, otherwise we'd be in the same situation.

If so, then they also manage Auburn, so your logic clearly has a flaw

No... Auburn is a separate entity from the UA system.

UAB would be much like FGCU before the split from USF. While they do a lot on their own they still are under the umbrella of the University of Alabama system.

 

 

Gotcha.

 

Is there no umbrella organization to manage the entirety of Alabama's public higher ed?

 

Alabama, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Auburn, Auburn Montgomery, Jacksonville State, Montevallo, North Alabama, South Alabama, Troy, UAB, UAHuntsville, West Alabama

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SquareKnight is correct - the figures don't include student fees.

That being said, it is only a slight tweak to the statement to "we require less from our students in terms of fees than UCF to breakeven".

Agreed but perhaps not per capita which is relevant. We have 20k more students paying those fees. After removing some of the accounting noise for one-time conference revenue our universities equally sucks financially. However, we are amortizing an on-campus stadium

. Cash flow is a better metric than net income...Just pointing this out because the thread is misleading for both schools.

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SquareKnight is correct - the figures don't include student fees.

That being said, it is only a slight tweak to the statement to "we require less from our students in terms of fees than UCF to breakeven".

Agreed but perhaps not per capita which is relevant. We have 20k more students paying those fees. After removing some of the accounting noise for one-time conference revenue our universities equally sucks financially. However, we are amortizing an on-campus stadium

. Cash flow is a better metric than net income...Just pointing this out because the thread is misleading for both schools.

 

 

W's are still the best metric! :D

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SquareKnight is correct - the figures don't include student fees.

That being said, it is only a slight tweak to the statement to "we require less from our students in terms of fees than UCF to breakeven".

Agreed but perhaps not per capita which is relevant. We have 20k more students paying those fees. After removing some of the accounting noise for one-time conference revenue our universities equally sucks financially. However, we are amortizing an on-campus stadium

. Cash flow is a better metric than net income...Just pointing this out because the thread is misleading for both schools.

W's are still the best metric! :D

Ya....You guys should demote Taggart to recruiting director and hire Fuente. you're going to be in the red you might as well enjoy it

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money always seems to be an issue with usf whether from the  administration,press or the geniuses here

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