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Not to split hairs here, but to FABRICATE something is to MAKE IT UP... which means to create out of thin air. That's a lie to me, regardless of what some web site says.

The word you're looking for is embellish.  Like, you know... what O'Leary did on his resume.

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fabricated

Read the link.  To fabricate is not to lie necessarily but to make something up.  And they attempted to make something more of the story that was not there.

****, the further away you get from your USF roots the more your intelligence has seemed to erode.. While to fabricate may not necessarily be the same as lying, that's exactly the way you used it in regards to the 4 players:

The fabrication is in the fabricated story of the 4 players.  They don't exist.

I do see now, though, why you're crying to bring back "The DUMBgeon". There would only be a relatively small number of people with access there who would be witness to these mental faux pas of yours ...

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The fabrication is in the fabricated story of the 4 players.  They don't exist.  And "their" stories have changed in small ways since the first article ran.  And I would suggest the story about Moffett is a fabrication because it gives a negative view about GO from one player that never panned out and GO told him like it was.  There are many kids on this team and many others in O'Leary's tenure that would go to bat for him any day.  Add in their parents and it is easy to see why the guy has so much respect amongst his peers.  Which also shows you that respect by his peers was the ONLY reason he got hired anywhere after Syracuse.  If he sucked like most coaches do, everyone would have looked at his resume and figured out the error long ago.  But it didn't happen for 20 years or so because nobody looked at the **** thing.

Man, this place is freaking BORING nowadays.  haS.Been still has a hardon for anything O'Leary and doesn't understand when his 4 hours of Levitra are up.  Get over it, dude.  O'Leary is building something here.  Go try to cry on someone's shoulder about losing Green and Dixon to South Carolina.  Nice.

BRING BACK THE DUNGEON!!!!

Hey if the 4 players are fabricated then why didn't GOL dispute that in his letter/column in the OS?  You would think he wuold at least mention it.

That's the joke of it SANJAY...O'Liar knows those kids exist.  The Sentinel would never fabricate such stuff.  And these idiots, like mavprick, and goldenboy fail to rationalize is that O'Liar isn't even a smart liar.  In his original version of events, a version he had released to the Sentinel....he stated the workout as 'non-taxing' and said he noticed nothing out of the ordinary with EP.  Once those 'fabricated' kids suddenly showed up O'Liar's 'sketchy memory' suddenly got  a jolt of reality.  Then he remember singling out EP, telling him or someone that 'EP is better then that', and then when he seemed to be struggling he said, 'has he had any breakfast'.  I don't fault O'Liar because clearly he's not aware that a kid with SCT, if he's struggling, breakfast isn't what's needed.  It was the trainers.

But I love how Mav, and so many other UCF fans 'presume' or tell us, as if it was some factual foregone conclusion, that these players were 'fabricated', ask them why, and they just say 'because'....but the Sentinel wouldn't jeopardize countless jobs, and a major lawsuit since the entire athletic and editorial staff has pushed this story, on the back of some 'fabricated' story by 4 players...then there response is something coined like 'that's how they report by making up the news'....

I mean this is the BS we're dealing with...your defense or evidence that these players are made up is based on 'becauses' and 'opinions'.  Typical UCF fans.  Funny, UCF can be found culpable based on negligence without anything to do with the players.  If a UCF fan says the Sentinel 'sensationalized' this story, then I am with you, if you say they over-dramatized and possibly over-demonized O'Leary, even then I kinda follow you....but to say they 'frabricated' the story well then you're just a foolish dolt that isn't interested in reality and only wants to hear BRANDON HELDORKS "Dontwantnuttinbuttagoodtime" website and web-updates.

As I type I am asking myself why I am wasting my time.

How would the Sentinel jeopardize anything by saying they have anonymous sources?  You are an idiot.  And why would GO address the 4 players when that isn't even HIS biggest beef?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fabricated

Read the link.  To fabricate is not to lie necessarily but to make something up.  And they attempted to make something more of the story that was not there.

If the Sentinel was a good paper, when the original story of the players came out and they said EP's eyes were turning black or whatever they said, why didn't the Sentinel ask the players for information as to why they never tried to help EP?  I mean, the way the Sentinel says it, those players knew he was about to die.  So, if they wanted to find out the real story with what happened, they would have questioned those players more (assuming they exist) than they did.  But, in the end, they only wanted to destroy O'Leary.

And with ALL of their resources, they couldn't do it.  For VERY OBVIOUS reasons.

Which is why none of you actually get it.

BRING BACK THE **** DUNGEON NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did you waste your time?  You start with asking a rhetorical question, followed by name calling, followed by the statement that the fabrication of 4 players as anonymous sources was not as important to GOL as the two points he brought up which were- the level of intensity of the workout and payment of the funeral expenses.  If the 4 players are fabricated, then everything the OS has said so far is blown up and worthless.  Yet, GOL only said:

"I believe many of the Sentinel's stories have been biased and sensationalized, based entirely on anonymous sources, and questionable when judged against the Sentinel's "Editorial Code of Ethics" on its Web site. Part of the code reads that "efforts to reach news sources should allow them reasonable time to respond, even if it means delaying."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/ucf/orl-oleary2708jul27,0,7835838.story

So GOL's problem was that the anonymous reports were arguably against the OS's own standards and the stories were sensationalized.  He does not question the existence of the sources.  The only people I see questioning the existence of those 4 players are you and some other UCFers.

So after all that you close with attributing motives to the OS and crowing about their failure to destroy GOL.  Oh and whining aboout bringing back the dumbgeon, which apparently is your cause.  Yes, that was a good rebuttal to the issue of what was fabricated by the OS.  Well done.

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I'd just like to add that we have no idea if this will destroy GOL, or anyone else at UCF for that matter.  I can guarantee that the university is not going to take a single action against anyone until the pending litigation is resolved.  How can UCF fire, say, the athletic trainer on duty for failing to follow the appropriate process, then defend itself against a lawsuit which says the university did not follow process?  Not gonna happen. 

Did anyone notice that as horrible as Isaiah Thomas was with the Knicks, and even though he cost them a multi million dollar harassment suit that the Knicks didn't replace him until after the suit was over?  Notice it took about 45 seconds after the trial was over for him to get the heave-ho?

If anyone is going to pay the price at UCF (still very much in question), it will happen right before or right after the lawsuit is settled or dismissed.  Don't think for a second that O'Liar is in the clear.

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