Carolina_Bull Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,213 Reputation: 69 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/26/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 You don't make it three years (let alone four years) in the NFL if you can't play. Smith got the best deal. More money guaranteed up front. If he can play, he renegotiates a year earlier. And has a better chance of playing his way into the coveted third contract negotiation process that all pro football players wish to see when they still got game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgPound Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,239 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/28/2004 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Typically, once you get past the 2nd round, contracts don't differ as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,023 Reputation: 10,824 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Kevin Smith got the better deal. Like KL said the signing bonuses are only money guaranteed.Think of all the YouTube videos he can make with that kind of scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Kevin Smith got the better deal. Like KL said the signing bonuses are only money guaranteed.Think of all the YouTube videos he can make with that kind of scratch.He can get a few Lbs of that killer Canada bud and youtube about his dreams to his hearts desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberBull Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,657 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/04/2000 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Kevin Smith got the better deal. Like KL said the signing bonuses are only money guaranteed.Think of all the YouTube videos he can make with that kind of scratch.He might even have enough money to change the battery on his fire detector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron God Posted July 27, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 98 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/07/2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Kevin Smith got the better deal. Like KL said the signing bonuses are only money guaranteed.No argument from me. I just thought it was funny that a "historical" player got a deal that's not far off from what Trae got.Kevin's guaranteed $$$$ (signing bonus) was more than 4 times LARGER than what Trae got and was guaranteed.Maybe your definition of "not far off" is different than myself & others who have posted in this thread.I would expect that a THIRD ROUND player would get substantially more than a FIFTH ROUND player, especially one slated to start immediately.In light of those conditions, I'm not overwhelmed by Smith's bonus compared to Trae's, no. I wouldn't kick $450,000 out of bed, mind you, but I would think a "historical" player and a starting RB would draw a bit more than a mid-5th round backup CB. Heck, the article itself hinted at the paltry nature of the contract for the situation Smith is going into.Again, Smith is smart to get paid big up front. He's going to get crushed at the NFL level and will get worn down fast playing for the crappy Lions and may not last 3 years. The Packers defense is not the Rice defense.Funny, I remember you saying something about how Andre Hall was better?I said before, the vision Kevin has is a very rare thing to have. Emmitt Smith was not fast either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted July 28, 2008 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 74,604 Reputation: 10,863 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Kevin Smith got the better deal. Like KL said the signing bonuses are only money guaranteed.No argument from me. I just thought it was funny that a "historical" player got a deal that's not far off from what Trae got.Kevin's guaranteed $$$$ (signing bonus) was more than 4 times LARGER than what Trae got and was guaranteed.Maybe your definition of "not far off" is different than myself & others who have posted in this thread.I would expect that a THIRD ROUND player would get substantially more than a FIFTH ROUND player, especially one slated to start immediately.In light of those conditions, I'm not overwhelmed by Smith's bonus compared to Trae's, no. I wouldn't kick $450,000 out of bed, mind you, but I would think a "historical" player and a starting RB would draw a bit more than a mid-5th round backup CB. Heck, the article itself hinted at the paltry nature of the contract for the situation Smith is going into.Again, Smith is smart to get paid big up front. He's going to get crushed at the NFL level and will get worn down fast playing for the crappy Lions and may not last 3 years. The Packers defense is not the Rice defense.Funny, I remember you saying something about how Andre Hall was better?And .........??I said before, the vision Kevin has is a very rare thing to have. Emmitt Smith was not fast either. I guess it must suck for him that 6 other rb's must have had that rare vision also since they were drafted ahead of him .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted July 28, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Funny, I remember you saying something about how Andre Hall was better? Really? How, since you've only been registered under the name Gridiron God since January 7 of this year... http://thebullspen.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3742 Unless... wait, can it really be? PHIL, come back to visit us at long last? The prodigal son returned just in time to see his team raped for a fourth time? :D :D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Martin Posted July 28, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,044 Reputation: 228 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/23/2005 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Of course...only the SIGNING BONUSES are guaranteed (which I'm sure you knew that, right?)...but Smith's contract is laced with a lot of performance incentives...which is par for the course for any Drew Rosenhaus client.Unless his incentives are for bench warming and breathing he wont see much of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgPound Posted July 29, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,239 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/28/2004 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Most analysts think Smith will start to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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