Apis Bull Posted November 19, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I was all in favor of the Jenkins hit - I'd take that penalty anyday. The hits USF delivered set the tone early...UL crumbled.EXACTLY!!!Jenkins was sending a message to those guys early on. Mike knew that this game was going to be his biggest test of the year and he was fired up. I promise you that the WR on that play was thinking about that hit the rest of the game. Besides, it was even that bad, the Ref had to throw the flag since Mike sent that guy flying like 10 feet in the air.The good thing about all this traffic on this site is we see less and less of Smazza around here. If it's close to being inbounds, lay the wood, and take the penalty if you have to. Next time, the receiver will get out of bounds faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLfreak Posted November 19, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,890 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/2004 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Maybe I was extremely drunk Steve, but I didn't think the Mike Jenkins hit was all that late to be honest with ya... I don't know... I'd have to re-watch it... but the guy had just barely stepped out... I thought the coaches for UL lobbied for that call pretty good.I saw the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfmasters Posted November 19, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 40 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I saw Jenkings hit as being legit, but how officials in all of college and NFL officiate games they call that a penaly probably 3/4 of the time. I personally have always had problems with refs throwing a flag on a hit like that. As a coach I will take that penalty all day. Correct me if I am wrong, but when I played football the rules are the play is not over until the whistle blows. The whistle doesn't and should not be blown until the player holding the ball touches the ground out of bounds and you must allow for follow through, therefor the player is fair game to be hit. Just wait until 1 day when a players fakes running out of bounds then makes a big play because the defender eases up because they are afraid of a 15yd penalty. People will be saying that was a great play/fake or a cheap move, but regardless give me the 15yd penalty, besides hard hits demoralize opposing teams.As for coaches defense being more lenient on defensive penalties that is not true, aggression penalties are typically somewhat acceptable mental errors are NEVER acceptable. A defensive offsides is just as bad as an offensive false start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptkid570 Posted November 19, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 403 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/01/2005 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I personally thought that the refs did a decent job of just letting the players play. All night, I saw a lot of contact between the WRs and CBs on both sides of the ball and it wasn't flagged. Probably helped us a lot more than it helped Louisville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormalBull Posted November 19, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,797 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2002 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Gosh, I hope we keep undiscipliningly beating the shat out of teams by 30+ points per game. :ROFLMAO :deadhorse :wah :moon :violin :Flossing :lol :oldnewsNormal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,077 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 It was a clean hit. Clean or not, its football, if you cant take that hit, go learn ballet! the offensive player took the hit but the ref will flag defender 10 out of 10 timesyou cant hit a guy when he is out of boundspretty basicbut players and too many fans dont seem to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,077 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 I agree, stupid penalties have bit us in the past. But as a the guy next to me said, defensive penalties are not criticized by the coaches as much as offensive penalties are. they should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,077 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 The one play I didnt like from Jenkins was that face mask tackle against Ray Rice during that Rutgers game. Maybe he was just trying to send a message, but that sure as heck didnt work in that game. we should have tackled rice during the gamesure tackling sends a messagestupid penalties sure sends a message to our opponents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,439 Days Won: 148 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I could take all the penalties and stuff if we would just win the gameoh wait..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,077 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Gosh, I hope we keep undiscipliningly beating the shat out of teams by 30+ points per game. :ROFLMAO :deadhorse :wah :moon :violin :Flossing :lol :oldnewsNormallosing to 3 teams we should beat wasnt enough for you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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