aly20xx Posted December 16, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 70 Content Count: 622 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 ^ he tries to be cool ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 One thing to consider, I don't think a sophomore has ever won the Heisman... in fact, I don't think most voters even consider sophomores.He clearly has the skills (see BasketBull's post) to compete with the elite QBs in the country... However, a lot of these voters are stats people... Troy Smith was 199 of 297 for 2,507 yards, 30 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Sure, other QB's threw for more yards and more TD's... but the voters saw him lead a team to a 12-0 record and put up close-to-great numbers.If Matt can put up similar numbers (12-0, 67% completions, 30 TDs), he might get a very hard look... especially his junior and senior years.I am not a stats guy... some of his INTs were game-ending or half-ending plays that really didn't amount to much... and he did what he did this year without a real running game to speak of. But good stats mean that other things are being taken care of... Does he have a chance? Yes. But the OL needs to block. The WR/TE/RB's need to catch. USF needs a running game. And Rod Smith needs to call plays that enable MG to capitalize on his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sheriff Posted December 16, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 721 Content Count: 6,754 Reputation: 806 Days Won: 19 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Matt needs to post that article in every sorority house on campus... he could have Wilt Chamberlin stats by the time he graduates. That would be more impressive than winning the Heisman. We could call it the "Matt Grothe Esquire Giggolo" Award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theman123 Posted December 16, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 411 Content Count: 5,591 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Nice, this sight must know some about USF because thats the sight that put usf at #25 to start off the year next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksquire Posted December 16, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 82 Content Count: 1,254 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 He'll have to improve on those INTs (14 is way too many).  Rezz is right, those QBs have to put up huge numbers.  Has a sophomore ever won the Heisman??Personally, I don't think he does enough of either passing or running to be considered.  He does both well, but normally you'd need to really put up huge numbers in one of those categories.  Basically he'll be competing with Pat White in the Big East.  They are similar QBs and put up similar numbers.  If he can get the upper hand on White, than you take a look at his numbers versus the rest of the country.  Its nice pub though.  No a sophomore has never won it, so right there I think thet's going to hurt his cahnces immensely. I agree with what everyone else has said, he's not dominant in either running or passing, and the national exposure needs to up. And when they get that exposure they need to perform every time. This year is quite a stretch, and I don't think he'll win it. We'll see him compete for it in this senior year if he keeps playing like he has this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksquire Posted December 16, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 82 Content Count: 1,254 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 By the way flipflop...don't ever spell cool as kewl again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theman123 Posted December 17, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 411 Content Count: 5,591 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 the thing is I really dont think he has a chance to win THIS years heisman. But getting his name out there and even if he does great MAYBE a chance to go to NY would be great. But getting his name out there would be good for future year for him and the program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 17, 2006 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,051 Reputation: 10,834 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted December 17, 2006 MG on a Heisman list would bring a tear to my eye too if I were his Pa...However, I am not his Pa, and I think the inclusion is awesome, if not a little premature, maybe, a little goofy even.We have a long way to go as a team before we can even think of having Heisman candidates...If MG gets any serious consideration from any major media, I'll be ecstatic whether it's next year or the two following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTipp Posted December 17, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 108 Content Count: 2,484 Reputation: 288 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/26/2005 Share Posted December 17, 2006 In 2001 Rex Grossman finished 2nd as a Soph 2001 - 67th AwardEric CrouchNebraska BackThe Voting Points Place Name School Class Position 1 2 3 Total1st Eric Crouch Nebraska Sr. QB 162 98 88 7702nd Rex Grossman Florida So. QB 137 105 87 7083rd Ken Dorsey Miami (Fl.) Jr.QB 109 122 67 6384th Joey Harrington Oregon Sr. QB 54 68 66 3645th David Carr Fresno State Sr.QB 34 60 58 2806th Antwaan Randle El Indiana Sr.QB 46 69 51 2677th Roy Williams Oklahoma Jr.DB 13 36 35 1468th Bryant McKinnie Miami (Fl.) Sr.OL 26 12 14 1169th Dwight Freeney Syracuse Sr.DE 2 6 24 4210th Julius Peppers North Carolina Jr.DE 2 10 15 41Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch became the third Cornhusker to win the Heisman, joining Johnny Rodgers, the 1972 winner, and Mike Rozier, the 1983 winner. Crouch edged out sophomore quarterback Rex Grossman of Florida by a mere 62 points, the closest margin since 1985 when Bo Jackson beat Chuck Long by 45 points.No. of registered electors: 925Date of announcement: December 8, 2001Date of dinner: December 10, 2001http://www.heisman.com/winners/e-crouch01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSMOBULL Posted December 17, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 99 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 MG will be closer to the top of that list JR/SR year. Lets just hope he has some support to take the pressure off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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