BCS is out. Not good for Big East

[Bullpride08]

Here's the thing...if Rutgers wins out and moves into the top 10 and gets the auto-bid, and UL anniliates Uconn, and ARK beats UF, and OK destroy's NE then there is a possibility ND drops out of the top 14 which is the only way ND can't be selected.  But that's a big iffy proposition.

What that could do is propel Rutgers to the top 10 ahead of ND, and ARK win would jump them ahead of ND, and OK destroying NE would move them ahead of ND.  Then maybe UL gets ND's auto-bid.  Unfortunately that probably still relegates us to the PapaJohns because then ND goes to the Gator, WVU to the Sun or Texas, and Cinci to the International.  Basically I can't see a scenario that would move USF out of the papajohns unless by some amazing twist of fate the Texas Bowl selects us over say WVU, which ain't happening.  The only good this would do is bring an additional $4.5M to the conference by virtue of two BCS teams, but we would lose the $2.5M Gator Bowl payout which would mean a true net loss of about $2M, or a net per team loss of about $250k.

[jfcohio]

That means UL is a lock. We all know how dead on you were on with your prediction of USF below .500

Took a shot. BTW, USF's SOS was 70. They beat teams with combined records of 37 - 56, with 5 of those teams well below .500 records: 0-11, 4-8, 4-7, 3-9, 4-8, respectively. USF should be beating teams like McNeese State, FIU, Central Florida, North Carolina, and UConn every time they play if they want ever become an elite team. And, not losing to teams like Kansas, or getting embarassed by Cincy & Louisville.  

FWIW, their ONLY impressive win was West Virginia and I'm not going to put that win down whatsoever. Nice win away from home. Got lots of press around here, and most likely, around the country.  

[Ricky the Bull]

ND's loss of an autobid would supplant a BE team in the Gator, would it not?

[Warped]

You guys completely missed an important part of this....

If a team finishes in the Top 6, they are GUARANTEED a BCS birth (unless 2 other teams ahead of them are in the same conference).

1) Ohio St

2) USC

3) Michigan

4) Florida

5) LSU

6) Louisville

7) Wisconsin

8) Boise St

9) Arkansas

10) Notre Dame

If Rutgers beats WVU, Notre Dame will be left out of the BCS

A Rutgers win would mean the 4 atlarges would be Michigan/LSU/Louisville/Boise St.

It looks like Michigan/LSU/Boise St are locked in for automatic BCS births.  That leaves Louisville as the wild card.  The other teams ahead of Notre Dame can't make it for one reason or another (either losing or already having 2 teams from the same conference represented in the BCS).  So a Rutgers win = Rutgers Big East Champs and Louisville the gauranteed 4th slot (as the #6 team, assuming they don't blow it vs UConn).  

[MikeG]

ten spots and it is possible that only one BE team gets in after looking at this again.

10 spots

2 to the Big Ten (OSU/Michigan)

1 to the Pac 10 (USC)

2 to the SEC (UF/LSU/Arky) - LSU is a lock, UF/Arky has to win-- how screwed up is that?

1 to the Big 12 (OU/Nebraska)

1 to the ACC (GaTech/Wake)

1 to Notre Dame (outrageous based on total hype and fan base)

1 to Boise State

1 to the Big East (sad but true-- UL or Rutgers)

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[8u11`o3]

I'd like to see a link explaining the "top 6" guarantee mentioned in the post above. I don't think that's true.

To get 2 BE teams into BCS bowls, we need:

FL to win with a low score

UL to win a rout

UCLA to win

RU to win

[MikeG]

we won't get more thn one team in the BCS buddy -- no scenario is going to make it happen

the only good thing about it is that ND will not suck up one of our other bowls (Gator)

[MikeG]

basically, Cincinatti and USF screwed up the chance for the Big East getting two by beating undefeated Rutgers and one loss WVU

But I am not sure that Rutgers didn't also screw up the situation a little too since an undefeated UL & a one loss WVU was about the only way we would have teams high enough in the rankings to get the two bids.

bottom line-- the only real difference for USF is less money since the team that would have been bumped out may have been Notre Dame

It was all worth it though

[8u11`o3]

You don't think UL would move ahead of LSU if they win by 50 over UCONN?

[MikeG]

I doubt it-- who knows

Rutgers has to beat WVU too-- and that would be the longer shot