MechanicalBull Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 107 Content Count: 1,013 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/2003 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Vote on ESPNhttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/espnu/index?lpos=globalnav&lid=gn_ESPNU_ESPNU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrunner Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 714 Content Count: 7,796 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 If undefeated Rutgers is not picked, then the BCS is once again a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 723 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Share Posted November 11, 2006 undefeated Rutgers out to an early lead.seriously, if Rutgers wins out that means they beat 2 top 10 teams..destroyed an Illinois team that almost beat Ohio St, and crushed a decent navy team on the road.beat Pitt at Pitt, and beat us in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2006 If undefeated Rutgers is not picked, then the BCS is once again a failure.I disagree. Rutgers is going to finish with a very bad SOS (Jerry Palm has it in the 50-65 range, depending on multiple results), Rutgers did not play a good OOC schedule and it will be debilitating to their hopes.Steve Politi, a columnist for the Newark Star-Banner, says many inside Rutgers have conceded that a lot has to happen for them to see the title game, simply because they didn't start ranked, their SOS isn't going to help them, and they have had many close calls which have led voters to question their abilities. They have decided NOT to lobby for a BCS title position and even instructed Coach Schiano to avoid questions dealing with the BCS Title game and his team's worthiness.The BCS wasn't created to put the two "0" loss teams together, it was created to put the best two teams in the country together for a more definitive national title.I see people on here rip the BCS a lot, about how it's an unfair system, how it is just a mess, how it doesn't work. However, without the BCS do you think Rutgers, Louisville, or WVU would even SNIFF the title game? NO! In fact WVU finished a undefeated regular season in 1993, they weren't even in the conversation because they were WVU. Rutgers finished undefeated (11-0) in 1976, what did they get? The 17th ranking and didn't get invited to a bowl game. The point is we as USF fan should thank our lucky stars for the BCS, because before it was around, if the ACC raided the BE, there would be NO contractual relationship making the BE privy to the hierarchy of college football. They would be left to rot with teh MVC and C-USAYes, Rutgers is undefeated, they are a very good team. Would they beat Louisville if they played again? Maybe. However, even as a USF and BE fan, I have a VERY hard time objectively saying the system failed if it leaves out a team who has played the schedule Rutgers had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 723 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Share Posted November 11, 2006 well regardless who plays in the national title game, if rutgers finishes undefeated and wins their bowl game there will be a BCS champion and a split AP champ i bet. similar to what happened with LSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2006 No there won't, not even the people who cover Rutgers are willing to say their title worthy. Rutgers needs a lot to happen to get into the title game or even share the title. It could all be moot if they lose to WVU anyway. Read Above, and lets worry about Cuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsFanInTX Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 222 Content Count: 4,210 Reputation: 647 Days Won: 8 Joined: 08/17/2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 If undefeated Rutgers is not picked, then the BCS is once again a failure.I disagree. Rutgers is going to finish with a very bad SOS (Jerry Palm has it in the 50-65 range, depending on multiple results), Rutgers did not play a good OOC schedule and it will be debilitating to their hopes.Steve Politi, a columnist for the Newark Star-Banner, says many inside Rutgers have conceded that a lot has to happen for them to see the title game, simply because they didn't start ranked, their SOS isn't going to help them, and they have had many close calls which have led voters to question their abilities. They have decided NOT to lobby for a BCS title position and even instructed Coach Schiano to avoid questions dealing with the BCS Title game and his team's worthiness.The BCS wasn't created to put the two "0" loss teams together, it was created to put the best two teams in the country together for a more definitive national title.I see people on here rip the BCS a lot, about how it's an unfair system, how it is just a mess, how it doesn't work. However, without the BCS do you think Rutgers, Louisville, or WVU would even SNIFF the title game? NO! In fact WVU finished a undefeated regular season in 1993, they weren't even in the conversation because they were WVU. Rutgers finished undefeated (11-0) in 1976, what did they get? The 17th ranking and didn't get invited to a bowl game. The point is we as USF fan should thank our lucky stars for the BCS, because before it was around, if the ACC raided the BE, there would be NO contractual relationship making the BE privy to the hierarchy of college football. They would be left to rot with teh MVC and C-USAYes, Rutgers is undefeated, they are a very good team. Would they beat Louisville if they played again? Maybe. However, even as a USF and BE fan, I have a VERY hard time objectively saying the system failed if it leaves out a team who has played the schedule Rutgers had.Joe, I agree with your take.  My personal opinion is that Rutgers could get a big enough boost by beating WVU in the polls, along with numerous 1 loss teams falling within the next few weeks to at least make it intersting. Any team other than OSU/Mich is PURE speculation right now because so many of the one loss teams have tough games coming up. Who knows how it will shake out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economics_Nerd82 Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 502 Content Count: 5,903 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/09/2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Let's not forget that the season is yet to be over. Florida still has to play South Carolina, FSU, AND the SEC championship game. Those aren't power houses by any means this year, but those teams are going to play hard especially since UF is the anointed ones now. Texas has Texas A&M (25) to play. By no means is that a certain win. USC has Cal AND Notre Dame to play.There is still football to be played and Rutgers still has a shot. With that being said.... GO BULLS!Beat The Orange!:GoBulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFPDiddy Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,334 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/15/2003 Share Posted November 11, 2006 UF hasn't been dominating teams. Neither has Texas. Even OSU and Michigan had letdown games, but at least they didnt LOSE. Who did UF play that was SO brutal other than auburn (which they lost to) and Tenn? Tennesee isnt ranked as highly as either WVU OR Rutgers. Losing to a good team, while not as bad as losing normally is, should NEVER help a team with a loss get past team that doesnt have one.Don't go spouting that UGA and Vandy are so terrific either. I'm not going to say that RU SOS is harder or even quite as hard as UF's, but if Rutgers is undefeated it will have played enough top teams that the school should leap past the gators. Same goes for Texas (are nebraska and oklahoma, and TAMU really THAT much better than Rutgers' top conference opposition this season?)If RU doesnt get in undefeated (which is a big assumption mind you) then the system will indeed have failed. That doesn't mean it's worse than the old school pick whoever you feel like it days of 1 or even 2 loss teams winning the NC on a whim, but it's still a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 11, 2006 If undefeated Rutgers is not picked, then the BCS is once again a failure.rutgers has beaten nobody other than ulthey may not be a top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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