Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Triple B]

1 minute ago, Rocky Style said:

Agreed we can only compare on commonly available metrics.  

This is so simple even puc gets it ....

[puc86]

1 minute ago, Triple B said:

This is so right even puc agrees with me....

you are welcome

[Triple B]

5 minutes ago, Triple B said:

This is so right even puc agrees with me ....

 

3 minutes ago, puc86 said:

you are welcome

That'll work ...... for one of the rare times.

[Rocky Style]

16 minutes ago, Triple B said:

 

That'll work ...... for one of the rare times.

[Triple B]

2 minutes ago, Rocky Style said:

Let's not get carried away ...

[Bryson W]

39 minutes ago, puc86 said:

Where would one find the weekly comprehensive list of every teams actual attendance? 

I know joey knight always pulls them out of his ass when usf does something good to cut us down... will probably see it soon then.

[Rocky Style]

3 minutes ago, Bryson W said:

I know joey knight always pulls them out of his ass when usf does something good to cut us down... will probably see it soon then.

Haha yes but other schools do not get this wonderful white glove treatment, so we have to throw out this metric when comparing.

[macphisto]

17 hours ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

I don't think there's enough value left in the PAC. If there were at least 4 but probably 6 legacy teams left, then they'd have the value to build a best of the rest league. 

But with just the 2 Pacific Northwest little brothers? Not sure it's there. So since the money isn't there, it's not really worthwhile for either MWC or AAC schools to pay the exit fees and make marginally better money in a far flung league. Instead the easiest and most straightforward path is just merge with the MWC because this avoids the need for exit fees and keeps it geographically tighter.

The value is it retains its Power 5 status. That means your conference winner gets in automatically.  You don't have to compete with other G5 schools for the single guaranteed spot. That's why the MWC just dissolving and mostly joining is not unlikely at all. If a conference dissolves, exit fees go away.

[macphisto]

18 hours ago, GoBulls84 said:

I wouldn't discount the idea of FSU to the B1G. They're a national brand, they draw eyeballs, and while not currently in the AAU, allegedly USF getting in before them lit a fire under some people's a$$es to get it done. Despite the lack of AAU status, they're still a pre-eminent school in the state, and if the B1G wanted a Florida brand that could compete with UF, they'd take Florida State before Miami IMO. 

They have zero interest in FSU. FSU had hopes they could get an offer this year and the B1G showed no interest. UNC and Duke would be their highest targets from the ACC. They would take USF before they take FSU.

Part of the issue is FSU thinks it deserves a full share immediately.  Any new joiner would likely need time to phase in.  FSU really does not add to the TV appeal all that much.  Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan are more of a TV draw in Florida than FSU is.  FSU adds nothing and is not even AAU. 

[UCF_rustbucket]

59 minutes ago, macphisto said:

The value is it retains its Power 5 status. That means your conference winner gets in automatically.  You don't have to compete with other G5 schools for the single guaranteed spot. That's why the MWC just dissolving and mostly joining is not unlikely at all. If a conference dissolves, exit fees go away.

The PAC isn't retaining it's power 5 status, which is separate from autonomy status which they should keep. There's not a hard set definition but we can probably boil P5 status down to big tv money and an automatic NY6 bowl tie in. We can probably add voter perception in how the teams get treated in the polls but that's harder to quantify.

The TV money is going away. OSU/WSU were the only 2 PAC teams that the media powers didn't save in any of their other power conferences. Adding them to the existing MWC or some combination of a best of the rest will get you something a little more than the current AAC deal. Maybe $7M to $12M per team. Not awful but a gulf between that and the ACC/Big 12 and their $30M.

Next is the autobid. With the CFP expanding to 12, all the current NY6 bowls will now rotate between 4 being quarterfinals and 2 being semifinals every year. So the Rose Bowl as a regular bowl with PAC vs B1G tie ins won't exist anymore. 

For the playoff autobids, there's no set bids for specific leagues. It's not spelled out to be SEC champ, B1G champ, etc ... And G5 champ. It's just the highest 6 ranked champs. The goal is 1 for every P conference and 1 for the G5. But with the PAC 12 thoroughly raided, the CFP committee is now pushing for 5 champ bids instead of 6. Aka, they're acknowledging that there's now a P4 and not a P5. This still maintains the same structure of giving every P conference an unofficial slot and the G5 one shared slot. Unofficial because on paper, multiple G5 champs are eligible for those spots, but reality of how the voters rank the teams is that you'll only have 1 G5 champ in that range. The PAC 12 as P5 league is dead.

Edited November 28, 2023 by UCF_rustbucket