Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[WoolyBully]

29 minutes ago, 00Bull said:

the AAU was BETTER than being football relevant.

It depends on where you're sitting. If you're in the academics & research business, AAU matters more. If you're in the athletic program business, football relevance matters more. The two are indeed at opposite ends of the spectrum, but we have to define what constitutes 'better'. If you - as a university - could have but one distinction, which would you choose? Would you rather cool your jets with the likes of MIT, Yale, and Vanderbilt or Alabama, Texas and Oklahoma? Our good friends at Ohio State and University of Southern California have demonstrated how to achieve both football success and academic success. If we throw Duke in there it would be basketball success as well. But it's not a very good argument to state - blanket wise - that one is necessarily better than the other. 

[Cat941]

 

[Bull Matrix]

[Cat941]

 

[00Bull]

37 minutes ago, WoolyBully said:

It depends on where you're sitting. If you're in the academics & research business, AAU matters more. If you're in the athletic program business, football relevance matters more. The two are indeed at opposite ends of the spectrum, but we have to define what constitutes 'better'. If you - as a university - could have but one distinction, which would you choose? Would you rather cool your jets with the likes of MIT, Yale, and Vanderbilt or Alabama, Texas and Oklahoma? Our good friends at Ohio State and University of Southern California have demonstrated how to achieve both football success and academic success. If we throw Duke in there it would be basketball success as well. But it's not a very good argument to state - blanket wise - that one is necessarily better than the other. 

Which do you think UF would rather give up…their AAU status or their athletics relevance?

In this case, I think one is demonstrably better; not that you can’t achieve/strive for both. Just pointing out the silliness of the “debate” on that previous thread that somehow AAU was going to be the saving grace.

[Triple B]

9 hours ago, olafberserker said:

No one IS discussing ucf ... you were discussing control over what a school could acquire .... ucf was an example I gave of a school choosing athletics and acquiring what they desired

and I don't advocate for either choice but it appears both schools got what they wanted

I was discussing what a school had more control over, AAU status or P5, not the generic "athletics" you switched to there. There is a more defined path to AAU status than the P5, that's not even debatable. What did UCF choose different than most of the other G5 schools with football programs that ultimately got them to the P5? The only real answer is they chose the right coaches, from GOL to Heupel ...... and choosing coaches is a crap shoot.

And both schools want both, AAU and "P5". Only one got both ...... but then lost one.

[hightechbull]

A successful football program is easier to achieve in the modern era.   You just need boatloads of cash and the desire to spend to reach your goal.   

AAU is a lot harder to achieve.  It takes decades to get to the point where they invite you to the exclusive club.   I am sure going to mention USF status as a premier university in my next interview.   It has been decades since I was a student but we were part of the building blocks to get to where we are today.

[Outlaw]

1 hour ago, Bull Matrix said:

Better than aac but not sure the college football playoffs would recognize this as a power conference. If the payouts are better and the paac is recognized as a power conference then the aac. If not then we are just a new g5 conference begging to get called up to power football.

[Rocky Style]

1 hour ago, Cat941 said:

 

Interesting.  This could be the "one vote" they need.

[00Bull]

32 minutes ago, hightechbull said:

A successful football program is easier to achieve in the modern era.   You just need boatloads of cash and the desire to spend to reach your goal.   

AAU is a lot harder to achieve.  It takes decades to get to the point where they invite you to the exclusive club.   I am sure going to mention USF status as a premier university in my next interview.   It has been decades since I was a student but we were part of the building blocks to get to where we are today.

If you haven’t been in school for 20+ years and you are mentioning their recently acquired AAU status as part of your job interview, let me just go out on a limb and say you aren’t getting that job.

I kid, sort of.