NewEnglandBull Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted January 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Triple B said: Don't need blue collar shirts with blue chip players ... Dat true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted January 6, 2018 18 hours ago, Brad said: He was bad, but a scapegoat of the program's problems that originated with the AD and the Prez. Luckily Woolard is out doing what woolards do - somewhere else. After, of course, rewarding himself handsomely too. I'd cut Holtz some slack if his game management wasn't so egregiously bad it made kittens who watched his games claw their own eyes out rather than watch him save more time outs or kick pointless field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsofbull99 Posted January 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 114 Content Count: 6,744 Reputation: 912 Days Won: 17 Joined: 02/17/2002 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Should have fired Judy when she sacked The Jim! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 6:37 PM, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: I'd cut Holtz some slack if his game management wasn't so egregiously bad it made kittens who watched his games claw their own eyes out rather than watch him save more time outs or kick pointless field goals. This. I know some here have inside info that Holtz was forced to "clean up" the program which cost us recruits and made the job nearly impossible, but, I watched the games and didn't see anyone on the sidelines other than him making bad in-game decisions. I am fairly certain that he will get another shot at a bigger program and will probably do well, but, it certainly didn't work here and he should have been gone a year sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToroDeFuego Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 70 Content Count: 611 Reputation: 275 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/27/2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 11:48 AM, Brad said: Oh, we felt it alright. Still a little sore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizman Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 2,345 Content Count: 21,365 Reputation: 922 Days Won: 10 Joined: 01/02/2007 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, ToroDeFuego said: Oh, we felt it alright. Still a little sore. Still want to know what colors it burned like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,127 Reputation: 924 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 9:48 PM, lotsofbull99 said: Should have fired Judy when she sacked The Jim! I am not sure if you are serious and even if you are I will give you credit for being a die hard CJL fan and USF Football fan. That being said, Judy is one of the best things that happened to USF. The school has really flourished under her. I know we like to look through the prism of athletics but she views them as a means to an end - which is smart IMO. We do not have a nationally well know name or identity. One of the ways to do that is though athletics. As for Holtz, I was never a fan of the hire but he seems like a good coach and I have no idea why he is successful seemingly everywhere but here. He has a great agent that took care of him and you can't begrudge him that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 8, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,733 Reputation: 10,959 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 9:48 PM, lotsofbull99 said: Should have fired Judy when she sacked The Jim! 1 hour ago, MMW said: I am not sure if you are serious You've been around for at least 10 years. You should know better ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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