Golf final rankings

[Dogma]

 

Hey Mama_Bull, what are the chances any of these guys turn pro? Are there any rules as to when one could? Is there enough money for someone ranked around 200, or would income come from sponsorship.

 

I guess my real question is, any chance of these guys leaving before they graduate?

Going pro is lot harder in golf than any other sport. Its pretty unlikely they go pro early.

 

From an amateur prospective the steps are

1) Pre- Qualifiaction tourney. Cost $2700 - $3500 (depending on  when you sign up) top 50% advancce. No Tour status players. Only 3% of players who enter at this stage get a Web.com card. 3 rounds of golf

2) Stage 1 qualifying - Cost $2500 if Pre Q , $4,000 - $5,000 (one year fee) otherwise. Pre Q advancers and PGA and Web .com tour players who made a cut in previous year from a sanctioned event. Only 12% of players who enter at this stage get their card. four rounds of golf

3) Stage 2 Qualifying - Cost $4,000 - $5,000 (if not already paid in stage 1) Stage 1 advancers and PGA and Web.com tour Players High on web.com money list. Only 19% of players from this stage get their card. 4 rounds of golf

4) Stage 3 qualifying - Cost $4,000 - $5,000 (if not already paid) Stage 2 advancers and previously exempt PGA, Web.com and international tour players. Only top 45 finishers get Web.com card. Others are allowed to enter Web.com events but are not granted auto entry. They must qualify for Web.com tour events. 6 rounds of golf

 

Web.com players are Web.com tour card players, PGA players who did not qualify for PGA event that week, International players who meet Web.com requirements, and Stage 3 players who did not earn their Web.com card.

 

From Web.com to PGA

1) Only Web.com qualifiers or special exemptions can play on PGA tour. Special exemptions: win a PGA Tour through sponsor exemption, receive multiple sponsor exemptions and finish in top 125 of FedEx cup points if you were a tour player, play with enough sponsor exemptions to earn 150 place FedEx cup points, which will give you a 1 year exemption.

2) Other wise you need to win 3 times in a single season on Web.com tour.

3) Advance through Web.com tour finals. Web.com Tour finals requirement is top 75 on Web.com tour money list or 126 - 200 on PGA tour FedEx cup points and non PGA tour players who would have been 126 - 200 on FedEx cup points if they had been members. Top 25 of Web.com Finals money winners get PGA tour card. Top 25 money winners on Web.com tour also get PGA tour card. Auto qualifiers (top 25 Web.com tour) must play in finals to establish PGA tour priority seeding. PGA tour events are seeded and only the highest seeds that apply for the tourney are allowed to compete. For example if a tour event is limited to 200 players only the top 195 seeds are entered the remaining must compete in Monday qualifying for the final spots.

 

Web.com Tour Finals

Four tourneys in September and early October. Top 25 money winners in these four tourneys get their PGA tour card.

 

Basically you need to perform extremely well in sponsor exemptions or grind it out. 

 

 

Wow.. very informative

Thanks!

[charsibb]

Perhaps this is because golf is so easy to play (note that I did NOT say it's easy to play well!) - there are basically very few barriers to entry for individual athletes. They don't need a team, or a union, or a program, or a school. They just need clubs (and skill).

 

Therefore there must be elaborate rules to keep people out.

 

No?

[Mama_Bull]

 

 

Hey Mama_Bull, what are the chances any of these guys turn pro? Are there any rules as to when one could? Is there enough money for someone ranked around 200, or would income come from sponsorship.

 

I guess my real question is, any chance of these guys leaving before they graduate?

Going pro is lot harder in golf than any other sport. Its pretty unlikely they go pro early.

 

From an amateur prospective the steps are

1) Pre- Qualifiaction tourney. Cost $2700 - $3500 (depending on  when you sign up) top 50% advancce. No Tour status players. Only 3% of players who enter at this stage get a Web.com card. 3 rounds of golf

2) Stage 1 qualifying - Cost $2500 if Pre Q , $4,000 - $5,000 (one year fee) otherwise. Pre Q advancers and PGA and Web .com tour players who made a cut in previous year from a sanctioned event. Only 12% of players who enter at this stage get their card. four rounds of golf

3) Stage 2 Qualifying - Cost $4,000 - $5,000 (if not already paid in stage 1) Stage 1 advancers and PGA and Web.com tour Players High on web.com money list. Only 19% of players from this stage get their card. 4 rounds of golf

4) Stage 3 qualifying - Cost $4,000 - $5,000 (if not already paid) Stage 2 advancers and previously exempt PGA, Web.com and international tour players. Only top 45 finishers get Web.com card. Others are allowed to enter Web.com events but are not granted auto entry. They must qualify for Web.com tour events. 6 rounds of golf

 

Web.com players are Web.com tour card players, PGA players who did not qualify for PGA event that week, International players who meet Web.com requirements, and Stage 3 players who did not earn their Web.com card.

 

From Web.com to PGA

1) Only Web.com qualifiers or special exemptions can play on PGA tour. Special exemptions: win a PGA Tour through sponsor exemption, receive multiple sponsor exemptions and finish in top 125 of FedEx cup points if you were a tour player, play with enough sponsor exemptions to earn 150 place FedEx cup points, which will give you a 1 year exemption.

2) Other wise you need to win 3 times in a single season on Web.com tour.

3) Advance through Web.com tour finals. Web.com Tour finals requirement is top 75 on Web.com tour money list or 126 - 200 on PGA tour FedEx cup points and non PGA tour players who would have been 126 - 200 on FedEx cup points if they had been members. Top 25 of Web.com Finals money winners get PGA tour card. Top 25 money winners on Web.com tour also get PGA tour card. Auto qualifiers (top 25 Web.com tour) must play in finals to establish PGA tour priority seeding. PGA tour events are seeded and only the highest seeds that apply for the tourney are allowed to compete. For example if a tour event is limited to 200 players only the top 195 seeds are entered the remaining must compete in Monday qualifying for the final spots.

 

Web.com Tour Finals

Four tourneys in September and early October. Top 25 money winners in these four tourneys get their PGA tour card.

 

Basically you need to perform extremely well in sponsor exemptions or grind it out. 

 

 

Wow.. very informative

Thanks!

 

 

The reason why I said they would all become professional, "To one degree or another" is because there are many levels. While the poster above, was just alluding to the way you make it onto the PGA tours.

 

But, that is not the only avenue open to become a professional.There are literally thousands of golfers who are PGA professional players, who teach golf at all the various courses around the world. They are not, in most cases, "touring" professionals.

 

Then you have the various professional "PGA tours" around the world such as the European PGA tour, The Asian PGA Tour and the Canadian PGA Tour.

 

The brother of USF player Chase Koepka is Brooks (FSU 2010). He took his  professional route by playing overseas on those tours and ended up becoming a full time member on the PGA tour (without having to qualify through the WEB.com tour), and is currently ranked #21 in the world.

 

Official World [PROFESSIONAL] Golf Rankings

 

HOW THE RANKING SYSTEM WORKS

 

EFFECTIVE FROM 1ST JANUARY 2013

 

Official Events from the leading professional tours from around the world are eligible for Ranking Points which are awarded according to the tournaments strength of field and the players finishing position.

Eligible Tours include: PGA TOUR, PGA European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, PGA Tour of Australasia, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour, Web.com, European Challenge Tour, PGA Tour Canada, PGA Tour China, PGA Tour LatinoAmerica, One Asia, Korean Golf Tour and Asian Development Tour.

 

http://www.owgr.com/about

 

You can see the progression of Brooks Koepka playing on multiple "professional" tours over the past two years. 

 

http://www.owgr.com/en/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=16243

[wagers]

Since we are talking golf, for anyone interested I launched a new company called LeaderBoardKing.com.  It does live scoring from your smart phone.  Runs leagues, events, keeps individual stats, games vs others.  I have all the courses in the country downloaded.   Takes very little battery on the phone.

 

If anyone wants to try it out, just PM me and I'll get you hooked up for free.  I plan on having courses use it to post their course leaderboards in the clubhouse, etc. 

 

A good example to follow is a live leaderboard for a afternoon work league in Jacksonville:  Crowley.leaderboardking.com.  You will see live scores flowing from about 4pm-7pm.

[raptorcj]

Since we are talking golf, for anyone interested I launched a new company called LeaderBoardKing.com.  It does live scoring from your smart phone.  Runs leagues, events, keeps individual stats, games vs others.  I have all the courses in the country downloaded.   Takes very little battery on the phone.

 

If anyone wants to try it out, just PM me and I'll get you hooked up for free.  I plan on having courses use it to post their course leaderboards in the clubhouse, etc. 

 

A good example to follow is a live leaderboard for a afternoon work league in Jacksonville:  Crowley.leaderboardking.com.  You will see live scores flowing from about 4pm-7pm.

Cool, good luck!

[Mama_Bull]

Following his dominant victory in the Mexican amateur tourney, Claudio Correa moves up to #41 in the WAGR.

 

 Claudio Correa

41WAGR POSITION
CHILE COUNTRY

 

http://www.wagr.com/en/Ranking/Player.aspx?playerid=8063&ismens=True

 

BTW, another former USF golfer, current PGA tour player Oscar Fraustro (Mexico), turned pro in 2006 and made the cut last week at the FedEx St. Jude Classic. He recently earned his PGA tour card by playing on the Web.com tour. So, it took him many years after turning professional to make it to the big stage. If he doesn't earn enough money this year (top 125) he'll probably return to the Web.com to try once again.

 

http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.30736.oscar-fraustro.html/career

 

http://www.owgr.com/en/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=9834

 

He is active on Twitter

 

Oscar Fraustro â€@oscarfraustro  Jun 2
Very proud to be a @USFMensGolf graduate today! Congrats boys for the best season in school history.  Look out for the BULLS! #NCAAGolf

 

https://twitter.com/oscarfraustro

[Mama_Bull]

At the Sunnehanna Amateur, after the first round, Koepka is T2 -5, Correa T6 -4 and Fernandes T38 E.

 

The second round is underway.

 

This is a LOADED field with most of the best college players along with others.

 

Leaderboard is here:

 

https://www.sunnehanna.com/index.php/tournament-players/leaderboard

[Mama_Bull]

At the Sunnehanna Amateur, after the second round, Koepka is T2 -6, Correa T5 -5 and Fernandes T21 -2.

After the 3rd round the field will be cut down to the top 50.

 

Our guys are doing very well.

[Mama_Bull]

USF (Sr) Trey Valentine finished T3 in his first "Professional" tourney, The Tara Championship, on the WestFloridaGolfTour.

 

Of course, this is a lower rung professional tour, but it's a good place to start.

 

https://twitter.com/WestFloridaGolf

 

Also, USF player Jeffrey Meltzer competed as an amateur and placed T-15.

 

http://www.westfloridagolftour.com/TournamentResult.aspx?TournamentID=666

 

 As you can see there, the total prize money was over $20,000 and Trey earned $1,474.40 and points. Jeffrey couldn't accept his prize money ($278) but is awarded points, which will carry over when he turns pro at some point.

[Mama_Bull]

At the Sunnehanna Amateur, after the third round, Koepka is in 1st at -10, Correa is tied for 7th at -6 and Fernandes is tied for 12th at -5.  

 

All three will be playing tomorrow in the final round.