Star Ratings

[Triple B]

The chart from their own article works against their own argument.  If you take Maryland and Rutgers out of the equation because they haven't played in the Big 10 yet then the Top 6 teams in recruiting have 362 wins and the Bottom 6 have 210 wins.  Ohio State has had the best recruiting and is has been the top team. Indiana has had the worst recruiting and is the worst team.  Wisconsin had a really nice run from 2009 - 2011 where they went 32-8 where Bielema built a team with massive size and great defense, and they overachieved for what their recruiting level was.  It was why he got the Arkansas job.   The last 2 years they have gone 16 - 10, which is more in line with what their recruiting says they should win in the Big 10.

 

There's no doubt that some 4 and 5 stars come in and play like 2 stars, and some 2 stars come in and play like 5's but things tend to even themselves out.   The Bulls this year pulled in 23 3 and 4 stars.   Tulsa, Tulane, Uconn, and ECU pulled in an average of 3 each.     The odds are much greater that 12 - 15 of those Bulls recruits will play to their expectations then 12 - 15 of the 1 and 2 star recruits for those teams will all step up and play like 3's and 4's.   As it stands right now looking at the recruiting the AAC is just going to be Cincy, UCF, USF, and then everyone else in a few years.

 

No, the dweebs who put them at that recruiting level were wrong ...

[dabull80]

I do think that they had a point that recruiting services have more assets to follow players and write on them then any single school.  Coaches would be foolish to ignore the services.

[Bull94]

I do think that they had a point that recruiting services have more assets to follow players and write on them then any single school.  Coaches would be foolish to ignore the services.

Bobby Bowden said following recruiting service rankings led to his downfall. He got lazy with talent evaluations. Our last coach was a lazy recruiter. He'd rather play golf in Utah than evaluate kids at our football camp. This new guy seems worlds better.

 

sorry but there is no way you can rank 1000's of kids many just on highlight reels accurately. not only that but not every athlete is valued the same. Oregon likes small athletic linemen while Stanford likes big strong ones.

 

these recruiting services just rank the players that sign with certain schools at a certain level. if Saban has evaluated you (and that guy works tiresly running football camps to evaluate kids) and wants to sign you then you get a 4 star. etc.

 

not only that but those services are backwards looking. Patterson at TCU was a below average recruiter according to his class rankings until he started to win with those supposed terrible recruits. then all of a sudden his classes started to get ranked higher. those sites realized he knew how to evaluate talent.

 

He says the other reason why the Seminoles have a 40-24 record the past five years is mostly self-inflicted: poor recruiting.

For example, Bowden points to starting quarterback Christian Ponder. He is a fourth-year junior, but this is his second season as the starter.

Bowden starts to recite a line of quarterbacks who didn’t start for the Seminoles until they were fourth-year juniors, after they had learned the playbook and gotten used to the speed of the college game.

“I think the [NFL] draft this year, where are the Florida State kids in the draft?†Bowden asked, before answering that only one player was drafted. “They aren’t in there. Used to have four in the first round. And forget the five-star stuff. Some of them five-stars played like one-stars, two-stars.

“We just have to look at and evaluate. We better look at potential better. Do a better job of going by the high school and scrutinizing the kid to see what he really brings to the table, rather than what the newspapers said.â€

 

Bowden’s quotes bring up to extremely important points about the recruiting process.  One, recruits that are worrying about getting a lot of stars by a recruiting website are playing the wrong game.  College coaches focus on evaluating talent, not staring at websites.  Recruits need to focus on getting themselves in front of college coaches, so they can truly get evaluated.

 

http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2009/08/27/poor-recruiting-poor-results/