Big East Baseball Tourney, Day 3

[charsibb]

Here's the breakdown of our performance in the Big East tournament.

12-14 overall record, Qualified 7 out of 8 years. Made only 1 championship game.

2006 (8th seed) 0-2

> L 1-8 vs #1 Notre Dame

> L 4-6 vs #4 St Johns

2007 (5th seed) 2-2 [in Brooklyn, NY]

> W 2-1 vs #4 Pittsburgh

> W 2-0 vs #1 St Johns

> L 0-3 vs #8 UConn

> L 0-2 vs #8 UConn

2008 (6th seed) 2-2

> W 9-3 vs #3 Notre Dame

> L 1-11 vs #2 Cincinnati (7 innings due to mercy rule)

> W 12-5 vs #7 West Virginia

> L 2-13 vs #2 Cincinnati (8 innings due to mercy rule)

2009 (2nd seed) 2-2

> W 12-2 vs #7 Pittsburgh (8 innings due to mercy rule)

> L 2-4 vs #6 UConn

> W 11-6 vs #3 West Virginia

> L 8-10 vs #6 UConn

2010 (5th seed) 1-2

> L 2-3 vs #4 St Johns

> W 10-5 vs #8 West Virginia

> L 7-9 vs #1 Louisville

2011 (Did Not Qualify)

2012 (4th seed) 4-2

> L 2-7 vs #5 UConn

> W 12-5 vs #8 Pittsburgh

> W 6-1 vs #1 Louisville

> W 1-0 vs #5 UConn

> W 2-1 vs #5 UConn

> L 3-7 vs #2 St Johns [Championship match]

2013 (4th seed) 1-2

> W 5-2 vs #5 Rutgers

> L 7-8 vs #8 UConn

> L 1-2 vs #5 Rutgers

Records against teams

3-0 vs West Virginia

3-0 vs Pittsburgh

1-1 vs Notre Dame

1-1 vs Rutgers

1-1 vs Louisville

1-3 vs St Johns

2-6 vs UConn

0-2 vs Cincinnati

Very interesting.

 

We are a combined 10-6 against teams leaving us behind and 2-8 against the teams stuck with us in the AAC.

Edited May 25, 2013 by charsibb

[SattyBull]

How do the schools in the AAC rate in baseball?  We'll still have to deal with Ville next year, but what's it look like for the newcomers?

 

 

In general the AAC will be stronger. It wil not have a marquee team once Louisville leaves, but it will be very competitive.

 

Here's a look at the programs joining the conference in the coming years:

 

Memphis: They lack much baseball tradition, but FedEx built them a great new ballpark in 2009 and they have been improving in the past few years.

 

East Carolina: A very strong baseball program, with a tremendous facility as well as fanbase. They had a bad year by their standards (RPI of 89) and still averaged roughly 2,500 people a game, good enough for 23rd in the nation.

 

Houston: The Cougars have a solid program. They are usually competitive and have a pretty nice ballpark, although it needs updating. They too have solid fan support.

 

UCF: We are all familiar with the Knights. Their stadium is in the process of being overhauled, and they have been attracting great crowds, averaging 1,457 fans a game this year, despite a bad season on the diamond. Coach Rooney has been recruiting very well, but the team lacked much pitching outside of Ben Lively (who will be drafted), and hitting outside of Taladay and Hempe who were Seniors.

 

Tulane: The Green Wave have a proud baseball tradition, but has fallen on tough times post-katrina. They have a phenomenal new ball park and their fans show up in support despite the small size of their school. They averaged 2,080 fans per game, good enough for 27th in the nation. They were supposed to be very strong this year, but grossly underachieved.

 

Temple: This is the black eye of AAC baseball. They will take Villanova's place as the Philadelphia baseball whipping boy for the conference, as the Owls have not been close to breaking .500 since 2008 when they went 27-29. This year their RPI was 251st, and that is in a horrible baseball league, folks. While Temple is located in North Philadelphia, the baseball team plays at the Ambler campus, roughly a 20 minute train ride form Center City Philadelphia. The facilities are atrocious, however. The first time I saw their baseball field in person I was quite astounded...it is literally no more than a baseball field. It makes the Old Red Mcewen field look like **** Howser Stadium (FSU).

 

SMU and Tulsa do not field baseball teams.

 

 

Here is another way to look at it. As has been said many times on these forums, the Bulls have not made the NCAA's since 2002. Let's see how AAC members compare in that same time frame.

 

Memphis: 2007

ECU: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011

Houston: 2003, 2006, 2008

UCF: 2004, 2011, 2012

Tulane: 2003, 2004, 2005 (CWS), 2006, 2008

Temple: None

 

UConn: 2010, 2011

Cincinnati: None

 

 

It wil be a competitive league, but there is NO reason that USF should not be towards the top of the league.

Edited May 25, 2013 by SattyBull

[Sellular1]

How do the schools in the AAC rate in baseball?  We'll still have to deal with Ville next year, but what's it look like for the newcomers?

 

 

In general the AAC will be stronger. It wil not have a marquee team once Louisville leaves, but it will be very competitive.

 

Here's a look at the programs joining the conference in the coming years:

 

Memphis: They lack much baseball tradition, but FedEx built them a great new ballpark in 2009 and they have been improving in the past few years.

 

East Carolina: A very strong baseball program, with a tremendous facility as well as fanbase. They had a bad year by their standards (RPI of 89) and still averaged roughly 2,500 people a game, good enough for 23rd in the nation.

 

Houston: The Cougars have a solid program. They are usually competitive and have a pretty nice ballpark, although it needs updating. They too have solid fan support.

 

UCF: We are all familiar with the Knights. Their stadium is in the process of being overhauled, and they have been attracting great crowds, averaging 1,457 fans a game this year, despite a bad season on the diamond. Coach Rooney has been recruiting very well, but the team lacked much pitching outside of Ben Lively (who will be drafted), and hitting outside of Taladay and Hempe who were Seniors.

 

Tulane: The Green Wave have a proud baseball tradition, but has fallen on tough times post-katrina. They have a phenomenal new ball park and their fans show up in support despite the small size of their school. They averaged 2,080 fans per game, good enough for 27th in the nation. They were supposed to be very strong this year, but grossly underachieved.

 

Temple: This is the black eye of AAC baseball. They will take Villanova's place as the Philadelphia baseball whipping boy for the conference, as the Owls have not been close to breaking .500 since 2008 when they went 27-29. This year their RPI was 251st, and that is in a horrible baseball league, folks. While Temple is located in North Philadelphia, the baseball team plays at the Ambler campus, roughly a 20 minute train ride form Center City Philadelphia. The facilities are atrocious, however. The first time I saw their baseball field in person I was quite astounded...it is literally no more than a baseball field. It makes the Old Red Mcewen field look like **** Howser Stadium (FSU).

 

SMU and Tulsa do not field baseball teams.

 

 

Here is another way to look at it. As has been said many times on these forums, the Bulls have not made the NCAA's since 2002. Let's see how AAC members compare in that same time frame.

 

Memphis: 2007

ECU: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011

Houston: 2003, 2006, 2008

UCF: 2004, 2011, 2012

Tulane: 2003, 2004, 2005 (CWS), 2006, 2008

Temple: None

 

UConn: 2010, 2011

Cincinnati: None

 

 

It wil be a competitive league, but there is NO reason that USF should not be towards the top of the league.

Nice post. Curious, what is our average attendance?

[outrunner]

In case you were wondering UConn and Notre Dame both won their games today to make the championship.

 

The Big East has the #7 seed against the #8 seed.  Kinda embarrassing that two teams with sub .500 conference records are going to the the finals to go the NCAA tournament.

[Sellular1]

Our BaseBulls choked harder than the Boston Strangler...

[smazza]

 

In case you were wondering UConn and Notre Dame both won their games today to make the championship.

 

The Big East has the #7 seed against the #8 seed.  Kinda embarrassing that two teams with sub .500 conference records are going to the the finals to go the NCAA tournament.

 

 

 

 

the big east was terrible for most sports except basketball

[Rizman]

How can you win that many games in a row and then spank the monkey?

[South_Florida_Flip]

How can you win that many games in a row and then spank the monkey?

 

Because we were fortunate in most of those games, especially ones that went to extra innings.

 

Bottom line is that we play in a bad league and we haven't improved at all.

[bullcocky101]

I believe prado is gone. He needed a regional at least to keep his job. We were supposed to dominate big east baseball and instead we were abysmal and never could get anything done. The coaching decisions just seemed to get worse.

[SattyBull]

I believe prado is gone. He needed a regional at least to keep his job. We were supposed to dominate big east baseball and instead we were abysmal and never could get anything done. The coaching decisions just seemed to get worse.

I think he gets another year. His contract is up after next season and I think DW and co were encouraged by this season, so he gets another shot. If no regional next year, let him walk... simple as that.