The NCAA Is Under Seige

[slick1ru2]

Obviously, without the players there wouldn't be college football. If anyone has a sense of entitlement its the fans and corporate shareholders along with the school admins who see football as a marketing expense with massive ROI in terms of ticket sales, TV deals, corporate sponsors, merchandising, donors, etc.. When did a football program last fold? Its been decades. How many have started up in the past 5 years and are planned? Several. And its because of the $$$.

 

8 new teams in 2011 and 17 more planned between 2012 and 2014 per this 2011 article. http://ncaafootball.com/News/tabid/729/Article/120494/colleges-continue-to-add-football-teams.aspx

 

A well run program beings in students and adds visibility. And when run properly, its a cash cow. And student athletes are the serfs.

Edited February 13, 2013 by slick1ru2

[slick1ru2]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/7635972-419/should-college-athletes-be-paid-as-much-as-1m-says-new-report.html
 

 

The average fair market value of top-tier college
football and men’s basketball players is over $100,000 each, and the
athletes are entitled to at least a portion of that, a new report from
an advocacy group argues.

 

Instead of getting what they’re worth, the players
receive athletic scholarships that don’t cover the full cost of
attending school, leaving many of them living below the poverty line,
says the report, “The Price of Poverty in Big Time College Sport.â€

“The NCAA’s definition of amateurism has proven to be priceless to
obscenely paid coaches, athletics administrators, and colleges but has
inflicted poverty on college athletes,†the report charges. It found
that some football coaches’ bonuses alone were worth more than the
entire scholarship shortfall for their teams.

[Brad]

That's some entertaining, yet mildly offensive, nonsense.

[GaUSFBull]

How are the athletes living in poverty?  Are they living under bridges between classes, practices and games?  Are they hitting up soup kitchens for food?  Are they having to sell the plasma in their blood to get money to buy textbooks?  

[Florida Bull]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/7635972-419/should-college-athletes-be-paid-as-much-as-1m-says-new-report.html

The average fair market value of top-tier college

football and men’s basketball players is over $100,000 each, and the

athletes are entitled to at least a portion of that, a new report from

an advocacy group argues.

Instead of getting what they’re worth, the players

receive athletic scholarships that don’t cover the full cost of

attending school, leaving many of them living below the poverty line,

says the report, “The Price of Poverty in Big Time College Sport.â€

“The NCAA’s definition of amateurism has proven to be priceless to

obscenely paid coaches, athletics administrators, and colleges but has

inflicted poverty on college athletes,†the report charges. It found

that some football coaches’ bonuses alone were worth more than the

entire scholarship shortfall for their teams.

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1. Technically, the direct costs of attending a university are tuition, books, and fees for services. Of course, those should be covered. Assuming they are, then what else directly pertains to the cost of enrollment?

Football related expenses include food, healthcare, and arguably travel. I believe those are taken care of, as well.

While not a direct cost of enrollment and/or football, I think free housing is or at least should be provided. I also would not mind modest stipends for a little extra spending money.

If the benefits I mentioned-possibly including stipends-are paid for, then what else is required for enrollment?

2. As long as USF is in the Big East, with tv revenue under $2 million a year, I am not so sure it can afford to pay all of its athletes $100,000+ per year.

3. How does an athletic scholarship cause poverty?

I know there could be post-college health problems from playing sports. But, those would logically be dealt with by extended healthcare coverage or ending a particular sport.

Other than possibly that, how does an opportunity to receive an athletic scholarship cause poverty? If anything, It could be used as an argument against offering athletic scholarships and/or sports programs in the first place.

Edited February 13, 2013 by Florida Bull

[Velcro]

Enable these athletes to go pro (bypassing college) if they so choose.  If they want pay, go pro.  If they want a free ride through college, take that route.  It is a choice.  Paying a salary is total BS.  I could only wish I had a full ride through my 5 years. 

[slick1ru2]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/7635972-419/should-college-athletes-be-paid-as-much-as-1m-says-new-report.html

The average fair market value of top-tier college

football and men’s basketball players is over $100,000 each, and the

athletes are entitled to at least a portion of that, a new report from

an advocacy group argues.

Instead of getting what they’re worth, the players

receive athletic scholarships that don’t cover the full cost of

attending school, leaving many of them living below the poverty line,

says the report, “The Price of Poverty in Big Time College Sport.â€

>“The NCAA’s definition of amateurism has proven to be priceless to

obscenely paid coaches, athletics administrators, and colleges but has

inflicted poverty on college athletes,†the report charges. It found

that some football coaches’ bonuses alone were worth more than the

entire scholarship shortfall for their teams.

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1. Technically, the direct costs of attending a university are tuition, books, and fees for services. Of course, those should be covered. Assuming they are, then what else directly pertains to the cost of enrollment?

Football related expenses include food, healthcare, and arguably travel. I believe those are taken care of, as well.

While not a direct cost of enrollment and/or football, I think free housing is or at least should be provided. I also would not mind modest stipends for a little extra spending money.

If the benefits I mentioned-possibly including stipends-are paid for, then what else is required for enrollment?

2. As long as USF is in the Big East, with tv revenue under $2 million a year, I am not so sure it can afford to pay all of its athletes $100,000+ per year.

 

Edited February 13, 2013 by slick1ru2

[Florida Bull]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/7635972-419/should-college-athletes-be-paid-as-much-as-1m-says-new-report.html

The average fair market value of top-tier college

football and men’s basketball players is over $100,000 each, and the

athletes are entitled to at least a portion of that, a new report from

an advocacy group argues.

Instead of getting what they’re worth, the players

receive athletic scholarships that don’t cover the full cost of

attending school, leaving many of them living below the poverty line,

says the report, “The Price of Poverty in Big Time College Sport.â€

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>“The NCAA’s definition of amateurism has proven to be priceless to

obscenely paid coaches, athletics administrators, and colleges but has

inflicted poverty on college athletes,†the report charges. It found

that some football coaches’ bonuses alone were worth more than the

entire scholarship shortfall for their teams.lockquote>

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1. Technically, the direct costs of attending a university are tuition, books, and fees for services. Of course, those should be covered. Assuming they are, then what else directly pertains to the cost of enrollment?

Football related expenses include food, healthcare, and arguably travel. I believe those are taken care of, as well.

While not a direct cost of enrollment and/or football, I think free housing is or at least should be provided. I also would not mind modest stipends for a little extra spending money.

If the benefits I mentioned-possibly including stipends-are paid for, then what else is required for enrollment?

2. As long as USF is in the Big East, with tv revenue under $2 million a year, I am not so sure it can afford to pay all of its athletes $100,000+ per year.

Everyone continues to say USF would pay...alone. The current lawsuit

includes EA Sports and the Collegiate Incensing Company which does more

that license hats and T-Shirts but also negotiate bowl deals. http://www.clc.com/

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So, players should profit from the school's logo? If it is only for their "likeness," then you would have to determine the value of information directly and not coincidentally pertaining to them-separating it from the value entailed by the university's brand. And, there is a possibility, the companies possibly using their likeness now, could find loopholes or adapt to eliminate their standing in a lawsuit for damages.

[slick1ru2]

 Students leave school all the time for the pros. Would paying them keep them around until graduation? Another year of JPP or Scott...

[Florida Bull]

Students leave school all the time for the pros. Would paying them keep them around until graduation? Another year of JPP or Scott...

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Interesting idea, and I like the attempt of encouraging NFL talent to stay for a full four years.

But, I suspect those who want to go to the NFL early under the status quo, still would. They see it as a promotion, and probably still would.

Edited February 13, 2013 by Florida Bull