TherapyBull Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 38 Content Count: 197 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/2011 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I am by no means taking the blame away from Skip Holtz, a lot of this falls on the head coach, and personally I do not see how administration can bring him back, given the disgust from the fan base. However, do we just simply lack the talent to compete in the big east? In all our rants against Holtz we assume that we have talented players who are able to compete, but what are we really basing this on? We have never had a highly ranked recruiting class, and we are usually in the ranked in the middle of the big east. Comparing ourseleves to other teams it is evident that we are grossly undersized. This can be made up by speed, smarts, and athleticism, however is this what is occuring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted November 26, 2012 This team is mostly Skip's team We had 1 borderline top 25 class with Leavitt. Instead we are in the process of assembling our worst rated class in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our BE history 2005 4-3 2006 4-3 2007 4-3 2008 2-5 2009 3-4 2010 3-4 2011 1-6 2012 1-6(?) 2008 was inexplicable especially with Grothe returning, but we lost a lot from the defense. 2009 we had the Grothe injury but were a defensive stand agains UConn from being 4-3 So it is possible we do not have talent enough to compete in the Big East. However, that would also require us to believe that either 1- everyone else in the conference got markedly better the last few years (and no one believes that) or 2- that we are recruiting worse than our peers now but we were recruiting better before we got to the Big East or 3- some other cause that rhymes with ipholtz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our BE history 2005 4-3 2006 4-3 2007 4-3 2008 2-5 2009 3-4 2010 3-4 2011 1-6 2012 1-6(?) 2008 was inexplicable especially with Grothe returning, but we lost a lot from the defense. 2009 we had the Grothe injury but were a defensive stand agains UConn from being 4-3 So it is possible we do not have talent enough to compete in the Big East. However, that would also require us to believe that either 1- everyone else in the conference got markedly better the last few years (and no one believes that) or 2- that we are recruiting worse than our peers now but we were recruiting better before we got to the Big East or 3- some other cause that rhymes with ipholtz. Or a combination of all 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted November 26, 2012 It could be a combination. Like ordering at the Chinese restaurant, "give me clusterfuc& combination #5 please" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 27, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 27, 2012 yes we lack talent we never recruited up to our potential by a long shot usf should be loaded with talent our marketing and pr has been nonexistant leavitt dropped the ball and holtz has beenh a failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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