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If we finish 2-10, I think the admin will have no choice but to clean house. But...it's hard to argue in defense of the admin's rationality since they gave Holtz that extension.

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I don't think most of this is on Skip. That is a popular sentiment around here, but our senior class this year may well be the worst as far as team leadership USF has ever had. A head coach doesn't define the character of a team. Seniors have to set that tone. Seniors should be addressing the lack of effort, but instead they pretty much lead it. Skip is to blame only in that he doesn't see the problem or has failed yet to address it.

Defense is the only part of the team CONSISTENTLY failing. That is on the coaching staff (especially the DC). There is nothing wrong with the senior class' lack of enthusiasm when the coaching staff gives them schemes built to fail.

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We need some fire and one conference win in last years is unacceptable with the talent we have....

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We need some fire and one conference win in last years is unacceptable with the talent we have....

Dude, what talent are you talking about. There is NO talent on this D. They ALL suck assss. They sucked last year, they suck this year, and they will suck next year unless we get better recruts.

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We need some fire and one conference win in last years is unacceptable with the talent we have....

Dude, what talent are you talking about. There is NO talent on this D. They ALL suck assss. They sucked last year, they suck this year, and they will suck next year unless we get better recruts.

Good schemes and coaches can mask a hell of a lot of missing talent. Replace the idiotic defensive coaches and gameplans and watch how much better they get.

The players aren't great, but they aren't this bad.

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They knew they were going to lose and couldn't stand to watch.

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I don't think most of this is on Skip. That is a popular sentiment around here, but our senior class this year may well be the worst as far as team leadership USF has ever had. A head coach doesn't define the character of a team. Seniors have to set that tone. Seniors should be addressing the lack of effort, but instead they pretty much lead it. Skip is to blame only in that he doesn't see the problem or has failed yet to address it.

wow. you don't watch our games do you?

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I don't think most of this is on Skip. That is a popular sentiment around here, but our senior class this year may well be the worst as far as team leadership USF has ever had. A head coach doesn't define the character of a team. Seniors have to set that tone. Seniors should be addressing the lack of effort, but instead they pretty much lead it. Skip is to blame only in that he doesn't see the problem or has failed yet to address it.

wow. you don't watch our games do you?

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I don't think most of this is on Skip. That is a popular sentiment around here, but our senior class this year may well be the worst as far as team leadership USF has ever had. A head coach doesn't define the character of a team. Seniors have to set that tone. Seniors should be addressing the lack of effort, but instead they pretty much lead it. Skip is to blame only in that he doesn't see the problem or has failed yet to address it.

wow. you don't watch our games do you?

I attend most of them, but business kept me away tonight (fortunately). I watch them all. But I don't just go blindly attacking folks as if replacing one guy is an easy answer. This year we have had a complete lack of effort on many occasions When this team can run with some very talented programs and then struggles with Ball State and Nevada it is a lack of effort. Lack of effort is about leadership in the trenches, on the field. Not coaching.

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We need some fire and one conference win in last years is unacceptable with the talent we have....

Dude, what talent are you talking about. There is NO talent on this D. They ALL suck assss. They sucked last year, they suck this year, and they will suck next year unless we get better recruts.

top 15 redzone D. #2 tackles for loss. #4 in sacks. sure no talent.

the scheme sucks. never putting pressure on QB and playing prevent on 3rd and long and last 5 minutes of every game sucks. talent does not.

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