BullFan98 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I dislike UCF as much as the next Bull, but I have come to the realization that adding UCF to the Big East will help make the Big East Football conference better and will not hurt USF football in recruiting. Clearly UCF is a much better football team that Nova, that is a given. I believe the Orlando market is better than what PA has to offer. UCF, in my opinion, is on the right track to becoming a very good football team. My initial concern was with recruiting and how UCF might hurt USF if added to the Big East. However, we have won all four (I believe that number is correct) meetings. Therefore, we have the upper hand when it comes to recruiting within the conference. Also, the renewed rivalry between USF & UCF will make for great attendance and TV viewership with a new Big East Network. UCF, in my humble opinion, after TCU is the best realistic choice to be added to the Big East. Obviously we would all like to have Notre Dame added, even more so than TCU, but that is not happening. I have come to terms with UCF being a viable candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Florida_Flip Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,565 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 7 Joined: 05/14/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2010 The Orlando market is better than the Philadelphia market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jihme Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,642 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2006 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Everyone talks about markets, but you have to figure out if that market actually cares about what's on tv on that particular channel. I'll give you some words of wisdom: THE ORLANDO MARKET IS AN EXTENSION OF GAINESVILLE AND RANDOM SEC TEAMS. NO ONE WATCHES UCF! HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbird2001 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 471 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/26/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Definitley hope the Big East adds UCF. Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Light Posted November 10, 2010 Group: UCF Knights Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,276 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2000 Share Posted November 10, 2010 The Orlando market is better than the Philadelphia market?Believe the previous poster meant in regards to College Football...as Philly, just like NYC, is 90% plus geared toward professional sports...and if anyone is a college football fan in the city, odds are they are a Penn St fan...much more so than Nova or even Temple.Remember, Philly use to be home to a Big East Football program...but they became the first and only city to ever LOSE a BCS Team because of poor support (Temple).And for Nova...here was their attendance during their playoff run last year in the Div I-AA Playoffs (all games played at Nova):Villanova 2009 Playoff Attendance:1st Round: 4,319Quarter Finals: 2,661Semi-Finals: 4,1713 Playoff Game Home Average Attendance for Nova: 3,717 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullFan98 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 The Orlando market is better than the Philadelphia market?Larger and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullFan98 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 The Orlando market is better than the Philadelphia market?Believe the previous poster meant in regards to College Football...as Philly, just like NYC, is 90% plus geared toward professional sports...and if anyone is a college football fan in the city, odds are they are a Penn St fan...much more so than Nova or even Temple.Remember, Philly use to be home to a Big East Football program...but they became the first and only city to ever LOSE a BCS Team because of poor support (Temple).And for Nova...here was their attendance during their playoff run last year in the Div I-AA Playoffs (all games played at Nova):Villanova 2009 Playoff Attendance:1st Round: 4,319Quarter Finals: 2,661Semi-Finals: 4,1713 Playoff Game Home Average Attendance for Nova: 3,717Yes, didn't think I needed clarification on that, but yes in college football....and thanks for the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfisher78 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,757 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/20/2007 Share Posted November 10, 2010 The whole point of this is to survive another plundering of the BE. The only way you can bolster your AQ status is by adding teams that have had success playing other BCS teams. I understand the argument of facilities and markets, but you need to add a school who immediately brings respectability to the conference in Football. TCU does that. UCF absolutely does notTCU2005 (No. 14), 2008 (No. 11), 2009 (No. 4).Football budget: $20.6 millionAthletic department budget: $52.4 millionRecord vs. BCS teams since 2005: 11-2UCFTV market rank: No. 19 (Orlando)Final BCS rankings: NoneFootball budget: $8.5 millionAthletic department budget: $35.6 millionRecord vs. BCS teams since 2005: 1-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfisher78 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,757 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/20/2007 Share Posted November 10, 2010 At least ECU is 7-15 against BCS teamsTCUTV market rank: No. 5 (Dallas-Fort Worth)Final BCS rankings: 2000 (No. 14), 2003 (No. 18), 2005 (No. 14), 2008 (No. 11), 2009 (No. 4).Football budget: $20.6 millionAthletic department budget: $52.4 millionRecord vs. BCS teams since 2005: 11-2Central FloridaTV market rank: No. 19 (Orlando)Final BCS rankings: NoneFootball budget: $8.5 millionAthletic department budget: $35.6 millionRecord vs. BCS teams since 2005: 1-16TempleTV market rank: No. 4 (Philadelphia)Final BCS rankings: NoneFootball budget: $10 millionAthletic department budget: $28.7 millionRecord vs. BCS teams since 2005: 1-18East CarolinaTV market rank: No. 26 (Raleigh-Durham)Final BCS rankings: NoneFootball budget: $8.5 millionAthletic department budget: $28.4 millionRecord vs. BCS teams since 2005: 7-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbird2001 Posted November 10, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 471 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/26/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2010 TCU and UCF would be great football additons right now. I wouldnt add Nova until they bulit a new stadium and avg at least 30k a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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