Jump to content
  • USF Bulls fans join us at The Bulls Pen

    It's simple, free and connects you to other South Florida Bulls fans!

  • Members do not see this ad, Register

A possible reason for USF's midseason slides?


Stier

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  1,387
  • Reputation:   4
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  07/10/2008

It's the one question that hangs over South Florida football. New coach Skip Holtz says that, by far, it's the most-asked question he's gotten since taking the job.

Why do the Bulls always start off so strong and then fade once Big East play starts in October?

"Right now, I don't know," Holtz said. "I'm trying to learn how we did things, go through it every step of the way."

There is probably not one easy answer, or else the previous staff would have found it. However, I thought something defensive coordinator Mark Snyder told me was pretty interesting.

In discussing his side of the ball, Snyder noted how his players were fast but undersized, a characteristic of Jim Leavitt's defenses. That's great for stopping spread teams, but not bulky, run-oriented offenses.

"Some of the teams in this conference play big," Snyder said, "and that's where we had some of our struggles. Against teams that spread us out and let us run, we've done pretty well."

Just look at the results. The three Big East teams you'd most associate with big lines and run-first mentalities are UConn, Pitt and Rutgers. All three beat the Bulls in 2009, averaging 33 points in those games. Rutgers has beaten South Florida three straight times, while Pitt and UConn are 2-1 against the Bulls in the last three years.

Conversely, South Florida has had success against West Virginia, a team that loves to spread the field, by winning three of the last four against the Mountaineers. The outlier here is Cincinnati, which has won four straight against South Florida despite playing a spread offense. Then again, the Bearcats have beaten a lot of teams the past few years.

Snyder, a who cut his teeth as a Big Ten assistant at Minnesota and Ohio State, said he would like to recruit bigger players for the D-line going forward. He says the defense has to get better fundamentally against the run going forward.

And maybe that would help the Bulls avert their midseason slides.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/8704/a-possible-reason-for-usfs-midseason-slides

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 26
  • Created
  • Last Reply

  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  5,241
  • Reputation:   60
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  07/02/2007

That is definitley part of it. Our Defense looked HORRENDOUS against Pitt last year. I think Cincy just had a great coach who could develop any player into a stud and new the x's and o's

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  116
  • Reputation:   1
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  02/02/2005

At least we have identified the potential problem, and can work towards a solution. It's great to get new blood into this program.

Unlike past years, were it was the repeated year after year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  3,804
  • Reputation:   373
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  09/21/2009

You mean our DT's that are built like DE's aren't big enough?

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  18,470
  • Reputation:   899
  • Days Won:  44
  • Joined:  10/14/2003

At least we have identified the potential problem, and can work towards a solution. It's great to get new blood into this program.

Unlike past years, were it was the repeated year after year.

So, you think the previous staff didn't recognize the problem and didn't TRY to fix it?

Every school is looking at the SAME players, because it is probably the most difficult spot to fill. We've gone after quite a few of them with mixed results:

Defensive Tackles

2007

63    Terrell McClain

(Pensacola HS)

Pensacola, FL   6-3/290  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida 

68    Kyle Dampier

(Merritt Island Senior HS)

Merritt Island, FL   6-3/275/5.00  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida 

JC    Kevin Dixon

(Garden City)

Garden City, KS   6-3/295  None  Yes  Committed to Nebraska (He originally gave a verbal to USF but his teammate Barfield (below) convinced him to switch to Neb) 

JC    Shukree Barfield

(Garden City)

Garden City, KS    6-4/310  None  Yes  Committed to Nebraska 

83    Jeremiah Warren

(Bay Senior HS)

Panama City, FL   6-3/290  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida 

84    Corian Garrison

(Bradford HS)

Starke, FL   6-4/290  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida (but did not qualify.)

http://southflorida.scout.com/a.z?s=359&p=9&c=4&pid=22&yr=2007

2008

66    Cory Grissom

(Troup County HS)

LaGrange, GA    6-2/275  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida 

PG    Jatavious Jackson

(Glades Central HS)

Belle Glade, FL   6-4/280  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida

2009

20    Arthur Jeffery

(Booker HS)

Sarasota, FL    6-4/285/4.90  None  Yes  Committed to Tennessee (Gave a verbal to USF then switched to Tenn when Kiffin was hired) 

 

JC    Leslie Stirrups

(East Mississippi)

Scooba, MS    6-3/280/4.90  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida 

PG    Anthony Hill

(Pensacola HS)

Pensacola, FL    6-4/290/5.10  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida (originally an FSU signee who switched to USF) 

PG    Kyrhi Thornton

(Hargrave Military Academy)

Chatham, VA   6-3/300  Verbal  Yes  Committed to South Florida (supposedly qualified under NCAA rules, but didn't get by our academic committee.) 

http://southflorida.scout.com/a.z?s=359&p=9&c=4&pid=22&yr=2007

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  1,387
  • Reputation:   4
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  07/10/2008

20    Arthur Jeffery

(Booker HS)

Sarasota, FL    6-4/285/4.90  None  Yes  Committed to Tennessee (Gave a verbal to USF then switched to Tenn when Kiffin was hired

 

Karma!  ;D
Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  66,110
  • Reputation:   2,443
  • Days Won:  172
  • Joined:  01/01/2001

usf had terrible coaching in the past

it is now a brand new ball game

prior coaching staff had the same problems for 10 years

they may have recognized it or not but in any event they certainly didnt fix it

you are what your record says you are

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  827
  • Reputation:   15
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  09/25/2002

usf had terrible coaching in the past

it is now a brand new ball game

prior coaching staff had the same problems for 10 years

they may have recognized it or not but in any event they certainly didnt fix it

you are what your record says you are

Yep. USC sucked last year. Their record says they did.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  TBP Subscriber III
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  37,790
  • Reputation:   2,446
  • Days Won:  29
  • Joined:  12/24/2001

...

you are what your record says you are

0-0

;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  0
  • Content Count:  19,525
  • Reputation:   992
  • Days Won:  24
  • Joined:  09/01/2006

Didn't we know that already?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Tell a friend

    Love TheBullsPen.com? Tell a friend!
  • South Florida Fight Song

     

  • usf-logo2.jpg
    Opponent Message Boards
    "Let them know you're from The Bulls Pen"

    Recommend one

     

    vs Bethune (8/31)

    at Alabama (9/7)  
    TideFans (I)
    TDAlabama (I)

    at So. Miss (9/14)

    vs Miami (9/21)
    Canes Insight (I)
    Miami-Hurricanes (I)

    at Tulane (09/28)
    Ye Olde Green wave (I)

    vs. Memphis (10/11)
    Tigers' Lair (R)

    vs. UAB (10/19) 
    Blazer Talk (CSN)

    at FAU (11/1)
    The Owl's Nest (I)

    vs Navy (11/9)

    at Charlotte (11/16)
    Niner Nation (I)

    at Rice (11/30) 

  • Quotes

    We've talked about getting back to being the toughest, most violent people out there. Let's be the best version of ourselves and really get back to the culture of how we (USF) used to step across the line and play anybody. Let's hold on to the culture of when they were tough … and they (opponents) knew it was going to be long damn day for themselves.

    Kevin Patrick  

  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      at12
      at12 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      JJ81
      JJ81 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Reacting Well
      bullz97
      bullz97 earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      cp74
      cp74 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Dedicated
      Maryland Bull
      Maryland Bull earned a badge
      Dedicated
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      Triple B
      Triple B
      50
    2. 2
      Cat941
      Cat941
      45
    3. 3
      BULLSHTR
      BULLSHTR
      43
    4. 4
      Rocky Style
      Rocky Style
      35
    5. 5
      USF_Bullsharks
      USF_Bullsharks
      25
  • Quotes

    We just went and whooped that ass, didn't we?

    Alex Golesh  

×
×
  • Create New...