Mama_Bull Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 18,470 Reputation: 899 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/14/2003 Share Posted October 13, 2008 We are into our third year in the Big East. Give it a rest. No matter how "bad" our conference looks to others, it is still a BCS conference. We are only just beginning to get the bigger recruits. I still see the program as having a ways to go before we can be considered an elite team. However, I believe that will happen. I look at the program as just beginning to develop. I don't consider the years we spent in 1-AA in the equation at all, nor do I consider our year(s) unaffiliated with a conference. We have done very well, thank you in our 3 years in CUSA and the 2 we have just completed in the BE. As far as letting Leavitt go, that isn't even worth commenting about. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feardabull Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,594 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/08/2007 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I also agree with Smazza to a certain extent. He has to at least show improvement... we are better than 4-3 in the conference.I can almost safely assume we go 4-3 again, but if we go 4-3 NEXT season, then the frustration will start to set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolina_Bull Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,213 Reputation: 69 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/26/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2008 CJL is viewed at USF as B Bowden is viewed at FSU.When CJL leaves it will be when he wants to. He has earned that right. USF footBULL is his baby. He has gone from conception to a mature footBULL program that competes on a National level.JMHOLEAVITT HAS WON NOTHING AND IF DOESNT WIN BIG EAST IN next 2 years he should be shown the doortrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolina_Bull Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,213 Reputation: 69 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/26/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2008 CJL is viewed at USF as B Bowden is viewed at FSU.When CJL leaves it will be when he wants to. He has earned that right. USF footBULL is his baby. He has gone from conception to a mature footBULL program that competes on a National level.JMHOThat's our problem. We are comparing our coach to guy who stayed in the top 10 for TEN years and won TWO rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Jesus Christ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Excusemy language, but I can't believe what people are saying here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feardabull Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,594 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/08/2007 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Jesus Christ...???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted October 13, 2008 CJL is viewed at USF as B Bowden is viewed at FSU.When CJL leaves it will be when he wants to. He has earned that right. USF footBULL is his baby. He has gone from conception to a mature footBULL program that competes on a National level.JMHOThat's our problem. We are comparing our coach to guy who stayed in the top 10 for TEN years and won TWO rings.You are absolutely correct. So is smazza and the others. Leavitt should have been run out of town after that second year (1998) when we weren't in the top-10. How dare he. I mean, to be top-10 for 10 years, he would have had to do it early right?I just don't even get it. I think some of you must have grown up as spoiled little piss-ants that got every thing you ever whined to your parents for. Umm, news flash...Jim Leavitt started at USF making 70k/year and with not 1 (ONE) player on the roster. Not an assistant coach, no field, no football, NOTHING. Think about this...If, ANYONE built a top 15% company (in whatever field) in 12 years, would anyone ever even consider firing that person?If CJL were to leave (on his own or forced), it would set up back at least 5 years...possibly more if they try to hire cheap.To the OP, I completely agree with what you are saying, it is sad. What is more sad is that our fans (sometimes I wonder) have turned this into a thread about how/when to get rid of Jim Leavitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoDoS Posted October 13, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 330 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2008 We are into our third year in the Big East. Give it a rest. No matter how "bad" our conference looks to others, it is still a BCS conference. We are only just beginning to get the bigger recruits. I still see the program as having a ways to go before we can be considered an elite team. However, I believe that will happen. I look at the program as just beginning to develop. I don't consider the years we spent in 1-AA in the equation at all, nor do I consider our year(s) unaffiliated with a conference. We have done very well, thank you in our 3 years in CUSA and the 2 we have just completed in the BE. As far as letting Leavitt go, that isn't even worth commenting about. IMHO ^^^^ This....+100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ Posted October 14, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,879 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/14/2006 Share Posted October 14, 2008 thnakfully the only two opinions that matter belong to two people who know just what an outstanding job CJL has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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