Grothe's arm is weak

[cmhatter]

stupid. im not blaming the loss on grothe. im just stating a fact, he has a weak arm.

Your posting is weak........I'm not blaming you or anything, I'm just stating a fact.  Oh and one thing I am ashamed of is all the fair weather fan horse sh@t I'm reading on this board.  Give me a freaking break.

be ashamed... you would say grothe has a strong arm im assuming? make your case....? lets hear it.

as for the fair weather fan comment. me criticisizing a player or a coach doesn't make me any more or less a fan. It a comment,,, and we both know its a legit one... thats why u coudnt defend his arm stregnth.

Why would you make a comment like that at this time.  Let's see, your mad and are trying to blame one of the only reasons why we are even playing in the Sun Bowl.  I don't know how many times I've seen this sophmore throw bombs down the field while avoiding a sack and throwing off his back foot.  So yeah, I'm saying to you right now....GROTHE'S ARM IS NOT WEAK.  And his desire and heart to compete is not weak.  It's a cheap shot you are taking at Grothe right now and it's crap.......freakin crap.

probly because grothe underthrew some wide open WRs... what game were u watching... we deserved to be in the sun bowl and i think grothe is a good player... his arm is just weak lol... you have trouble interpretating text... Where were the bombs with his feet PLANTED today? And i never questioned his heart and desire... if i did show me. Not a cheap shot. its called criticism. nexT!

[bulls96go]

where was selvie and the D fense?

[cmhatter]

where was selvie and the D fense?

where in this thread does it say anything about the defense? NO KIDDING. everyone knows the defense really let us down. unfortunatly i think u posted in the wrong thread.

[nobull.Bulls]

why does everyone blame grothe so much everytime he loses and forgets how well he played in other games???

The whole team was BAD today, and the only thing more jekyll and hyde than them right now is some of you guys.

[On_the_Chip]

stupid. im not blaming the loss on grothe. im just stating a fact, he has a weak arm.

Your posting is weak........I'm not blaming you or anything, I'm just stating a fact.  Oh and one thing I am ashamed of is all the fair weather fan horse sh@t I'm reading on this board.  Give me a freaking break.

be ashamed... you would say grothe has a strong arm im assuming? make your case....? lets hear it.

as for the fair weather fan comment. me criticisizing a player or a coach doesn't make me any more or less a fan. It a comment,,, and we both know its a legit one... thats why u coudnt defend his arm stregnth.

Why would you make a comment like that at this time.  Let's see, your mad and are trying to blame one of the only reasons why we are even playing in the Sun Bowl.  I don't know how many times I've seen this sophmore throw bombs down the field while avoiding a sack and throwing off his back foot.  So yeah, I'm saying to you right now....GROTHE'S ARM IS NOT WEAK.  And his desire and heart to compete is not weak.  It's a cheap shot you are taking at Grothe right now and it's crap.......freakin crap.

probly because grothe underthrew some wide open WRs... what game were u watching... we deserved to be in the sun bowl and i think grothe is a good player... his arm is just weak lol... you have trouble interpretating text... Where were the bombs with his feet PLANTED today? And i never questioned his heart and desire... if i did show me. Not a cheap shot. its called criticism. nexT!

So your going off a couple of plays in this game.  Hmmm....a game in which a running game was not established and the passing game in a sense had to be forced.  That makes Grothe's arm weak.  And again, why are you bringing this "criticism" up.....do you think that is the reason we lost the game.  Or did you just think that this was a good time to start a thread titled "Grothe's arm is weak".  There are much larger problems resulting in the team lossing this game.

But anyway, I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.  I just don't see the validity of your "criticism".  Don't you have dinner plans with your family where you won't be wearing your USF shirt now because you are embarrassed?

[On_the_Chip]

why does everyone blame grothe so much everytime he loses and forgets how well he played in other games???

The whole team was BAD today, and the only thing more jekyll and hyde than them right now is some of you guys.

Because when some people get so emotional after a loss, they lose their mind.

[the_bull_monty]

It looks like a couple of guys missed their naptime today.  I agree, it is a fair criticism, and was clearly directed at only one element of Matt's arsenal.

[Herman_Momart]

Im not scared to say it.  I think Grothe is not as good as hyped up.  I have been saying it for a long time.  Sure he can scramble and move but his arm is weak and his decision making is horrendous. 

How many picks can he throw for 6 the other way before we start to try using a RUNNING GAME

[cmhatter]

stupid. im not blaming the loss on grothe. im just stating a fact, he has a weak arm.

Your posting is weak........I'm not blaming you or anything, I'm just stating a fact.  Oh and one thing I am ashamed of is all the fair weather fan horse sh@t I'm reading on this board.  Give me a freaking break.

be ashamed... you would say grothe has a strong arm im assuming? make your case....? lets hear it.

as for the fair weather fan comment. me criticisizing a player or a coach doesn't make me any more or less a fan. It a comment,,, and we both know its a legit one... thats why u coudnt defend his arm stregnth.

Why would you make a comment like that at this time.  Let's see, your mad and are trying to blame one of the only reasons why we are even playing in the Sun Bowl.  I don't know how many times I've seen this sophmore throw bombs down the field while avoiding a sack and throwing off his back foot.  So yeah, I'm saying to you right now....GROTHE'S ARM IS NOT WEAK.  And his desire and heart to compete is not weak.  It's a cheap shot you are taking at Grothe right now and it's crap.......freakin crap.

probly because grothe underthrew some wide open WRs... what game were u watching... we deserved to be in the sun bowl and i think grothe is a good player... his arm is just weak lol... you have trouble interpretating text... Where were the bombs with his feet PLANTED today? And i never questioned his heart and desire... if i did show me. Not a cheap shot. its called criticism. nexT!

So your going off a couple of plays in this game.  Hmmm....a game in which a running game was not established and the passing game in a sense had to be forced.  That makes Grothe's arm weak.  And again, why are you bringing this "criticism" up.....do you think that is the reason we lost the game.  Or did you just think that this was a good time to start a thread titled "Grothe's arm is weak".  There are much larger problems resulting in the team lossing this game.

But anyway, I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.  I just don't see the validity of your "criticism".  Don't you have dinner plans with your family where you won't be wearing your USF shirt now because you are embarrassed?

how can u continue to be ignorant. i already said that its not grothe's fault we lost the game... the fact that there was no running game has no bearing whatsoever on how far he throws the football. It is an issue because if some of those passwes could have been on target we'd be in a better situation (NOT SAYING WE WOULD HAVE WON THE GAME).

ILL SAY IT AGAIN IN CAPS SO U DONT JUST SKIM OVER IT... AGAIN... I BELIEVE IT WAS THE COACHES AND THE PLAYERS FAULT WE LOST THIS GAME. The coaches didnt prepare the team to play and the players didnt come to play. The defense let us down in a big way.

its clearly valid. did u DVR the game? u should rewatch it...

[cmhatter]

It looks like a couple of guys missed their naptime today.  I agree, it is a fair criticism, and was clearly directed at only one element of Matt's arsenal.

thanks, good to know we have some literate individuals here... I think grothe has the intangibles. great feet, playmaking abilities, ridiculous escapability. But those things dont change the fac thtat his arm is weak. grothe is t agood QB its not like i want a change to be made at all...