tampajo Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 538 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/27/2005 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Blah game, but there wasn't too much difference between these two teams, seems to me.  If we had hit free throws, we could have had it.  How many minutes did Gransberry play in the first half, was he in when they pulled away? I didn't even notice him.Speaking of not being noticed, Howard looked tired today. 3 games in a week versus none for 3 years seems to have worn on him, specifically the hat trick at the end of the game.  Good things he's got brains, he didn't seem to have too much spring.This game was winnable.That is exactly what I am saying... this game proved to be winnable... not because WVU is bad... but because we played with enough heart and have enough talent.  WVU is 14-2 and has been ranked this season and probably will again shortly.  They've already beaten at least one ranked team.  We got behind bad early, but battled back.  We might not have won, but the final 35+ minutes showed we can play dead even with a top 30 team on the road.  We have a lot of work to do as a team, but we are learning.  Did you notice Mattis didn't put the ball on the floor from 20 feet out, except once and he got a layup on that one.  That is an improvement.  We didn't go inside to gransberry in the first half... half time adjustment, and we go inside constantly.  I wish we had done that in the first half... who knows what would have happened.  The are plenty of good and bad things to take from this game, but I hope the players take from this game that if they give it their all... they are going to win some games this year, even against good teams.I more or less agree, but I'd say the better talent was wearing green and gold, except maybe for Jammin' Joe. We didn't adjust well enough in the first hand, particularly, as you said, on backing down Gransberry, but also covering the skip pass for the trey, way too many open looks from the arch. In the second half, we defensed much better, rare open 3 looks. Honestly, pretty boring game, except for Mattis 5-star effort, he was playing within himself on offense, and a force on defense, as most often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Whoa, pal, put down the green and gold beer goggles. Which game were you watching...?Howard's box  0-4 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-5 FT, 3 Asst, 5 TO.........Capkoesque, if you ask me. Let's not annoint him the Great Notwhite Hope quite yet....HAVE to improve the FT shooting though. "Shooters" arent supposed to miss free throws.My comment had nothing to do with statistics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampajo Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 538 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/27/2005 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Whoa, pal, put down the green and gold beer goggles. Which game were you watching...?Howard's box  0-4 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-5 FT, 3 Asst, 5 TO.........Capkoesque, if you ask me. Let's not annoint him the Great Notwhite Hope quite yet....HAVE to improve the FT shooting though. "Shooters" arent supposed to miss free throws.My comment had nothing to do with statistics......or facts, apparently. Should have passed on the first half of Idol, maybe you'd have gotten a better feel for the game...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbi Bull Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 3,103 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/14/2002 Share Posted January 18, 2007 i think we played pretty well, and stayed in there with a team that is currently undefeated at home, so to go in there and compete like we did was really good. we had a bad start to the game, but than caught a rythmn and was able to play good ball, we need to stop turning the ball over and need to hit our free throws, and this is three games for Howard in a week, and he hasn't played a game in 2 years, not 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormalBull Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 236 Content Count: 1,797 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2002 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Did it occur to any of you that some of those guys may have been friends with Keeley Dorsey? Is it possible they might have gotten off to a slow start after hearing news about a fallen athlete? Just a thought. They all spend time in the athletic facility together. I know I was in a daze this afternoon/evening when I heard the news.Normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Whoa, pal, put down the green and gold beer goggles. Which game were you watching...?Howard's box  0-4 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-5 FT, 3 Asst, 5 TO.........Capkoesque, if you ask me. Let's not annoint him the Great Notwhite Hope quite yet....HAVE to improve the FT shooting though. "Shooters" arent supposed to miss free throws.My comment had nothing to do with statistics......or facts, apparently.  Should have passed on the first half of Idol, maybe you'd have gotten a better feel for the game......Fact is that coaches and players have commented on Howard's leadership qualities which wouldn't show up on a stat sheet. That's all I was refering to but go ahead and come back with some more of that witty repartee.... The American Idol shot was a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Florida_Flip Posted January 18, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 99 Content Count: 10,565 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 7 Joined: 05/14/2005 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Awful free throw shooting tonight. I agree with Velcro that WVU had that one good run in the first half. Outside of that we played toe to toe with them. I just wish we would have switched to a zone for a bit to counter their perimeter play.There are still games that can be won. Cincinnati lost by 1 point @Syracuse, Villanova drilled Notre Dame, so anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted January 18, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,508 Reputation: 1,262 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Awful free throw shooting tonight. I agree with Velcro that WVU had that one good run in the first half. Outside of that we played toe to toe with them. I just wish we would have switched to a zone for a bit to counter their perimeter play.There are still games that can be won. Cincinnati lost by 1 point @Syracuse, Villanova drilled Notre Dame, so anything is possible.aren't we supose to win 4 of 7 Louisville -lossCincy- winWVU-lossshould win 3 of the next 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ari_Hinkelberger Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 We suck.We turn the ball over constantly -- in fact we turned it over five straight times.We have no offensive flow.We might have the worst perimeter defense in the country.  We don't work the ball to Gransberry enough.We are terrible with respect to moving without the ball.I honestly try to cheer for this team, but they are lacking a coach and a leader.To all of those who say Mac is a good "X's and O's coach" you clearly live in the wilderness.We can't win a single conference game on the road..... let alone beat a quality team.This program is in terrible shape and I am sorry that people on this board hate to hear that.I really try to support this effort, but it continues to go nowhere.People in the room ask me why I get so into it -- They say "dude its USF basketball."That should speak volumes about this program.  This program is in the total gutter and anyone who doesn't see that is just out to lunch.2-18 in the Big East.  That is downright horrendous.  We have one single conference road win in 3 1/2 years.Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted January 18, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,508 Reputation: 1,262 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 We suck.We turn the ball over constantly -- in fact we turned it over five straight times.We have no offensive flow.We might have the worst perimeter defense in the country.  We don't work the ball to Gransberry enough.We are terrible with respect to moving without the ball.I honestly try to cheer for this team, but they are lacking a coach and a leader.To all of those who say Mac is a good "X's and O's coach" you clearly live in the wilderness.We can't win a single conference game on the road..... let alone beat a quality team.This guys stinks and I am sorry that people on this board hate to hear that.I really try to support this effort, but it continues to go nowhere.People in the room ask me why I get so into it -- They "dude its USF basketball."That should speak volumes about this program.  This program is in the total gutter and anyone who doesn't see that is just out to lunch.2-18 in the Big East.  That is downright horrendous.  We have one single conference road win in 3 1/2 years.Pathetic2-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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