Dont BOOO Pat

[Bull Martin]

I read your quote and find it absurd. This isn't the pro's and these students aren't professionals playing for the money. These are students of USF playing for their school and as such they should be supported. If you have problems, ***** about it with your friends, ***** about it here, send letters or make calls to the coaches or administration, however booing a student athlete IS classless and if you can't see that then hey it's not my fault you can't see beyond a trailer trash mentality.

I don't usually like trashing people, and I don't mean to point out anybody in particular, but BULLheaded is right.  It's not about pat being a bad football player it's about class.  And booing your own is without class.

[Bullhonkey]

I'm sorry, but after reading about half of the posts here, I couldnt take it anymore....so now I'll say my part.

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

I booed Pat Julmiste. I will continue to boo Pat Julmiste, as I did ALL of last year, everytime his name is mentioned or everytime he hits the field. The guy is the worst QB in the 110 year history of college football.

He may be our 2nd best option, which is debatable, seeing that he started the season ahead of the nation's top freshman QB....so really, what does THAT say about the talent evaluation going on at the QB position? Do we really wanna get into that?

Another point, and this is a VERY important one. Pat Julmiste signed up to play quarterback for a team that plays in front of 30,000+ people. Nowhere in the application for quarterback, does it say: "If you are a classy guy and you try your hardest, no one will boo you. If you cheer for your teammates and hold your clipboard in an upright and ready position, the fans automatically waive all rights to boo you and your performance."

Quarterback, and any position for that matter, is a performance based position. At QB, you either get ALL the praise (see: Blackwell, Grothe) or ALL the blame (see: Banks, Julmiste). Quarterbacks know this going in. These are grown men, folks. Not pee-wee football players. These men are old enough to fight for our country, they're not "kids".

From students to donors to walk up ticket buyers, every person in that stadium has a right to boo. It's what makes sports so great. People have favorite players and hated players, and like to debate about them. That's what makes the sports world go round!

Bottom line: Without booing, we'd have a stadium full of E.T.

absolutely untrue, without booing we'd have a stadium full af classy fans.

Maybe the next time a cop escorts one of your pals out of the stadium you can remember what a bit of common courtesy is like. Unreal, you get treated like **** and it's "poor me" but when you treat others like **** it's your "right"

Apparently you didnt read my post on page 4 of that thread. Do yourself a favor and go do that.

It's laughable that people are associating booing with "being classy". Everything in this world isnt flowers and lollipops, stop trying to make my football politically correct.

If a guy sucks, he's gonna get booed. It's not personal. I dont know Pat Julmiste from Adam. Bottom line is that if you play well, you wont get booed.

We have more than a full season of Pat Julmiste to base our opinions on. In his time as a starter, he threw more INTs than TDs, the USF Bulls had more losses than wins...AND in his GREAT BOWL SEASON, where he LED US TO A BOWL(one in which he was 8-25 91yds 1 INT and we were shut out 14-0 when A Hall ran for 118yds on 19 carries), the Bulls finished the year with a 6-6 record.

I read your quote and find it absurd. This isn't the pro's and these students aren't professionals playing for the money. These are students of USF playing for their school and as such they should be supported. If you have problems, ***** about it with your friends, ***** about it here, send letters or make calls to the coaches or administration, however booing a student athlete IS classless and if you can't see that then hey it's not my fault you can't see beyond a trailer trash mentality.

I'll deal with the problems I have with USF Football the way I choose and you can do the same. While at USF games I might decide to boo someone, coach, player, ref, anyone really, anyone that I feel like booing for a whole host concievable reasons.  Whether you agree with it, like it or not.  GO BULLS!

[BULLheaded]

I'm sorry, but after reading about half of the posts here, I couldnt take it anymore....so now I'll say my part.

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

I booed Pat Julmiste. I will continue to boo Pat Julmiste, as I did ALL of last year, everytime his name is mentioned or everytime he hits the field. The guy is the worst QB in the 110 year history of college football.

He may be our 2nd best option, which is debatable, seeing that he started the season ahead of the nation's top freshman QB....so really, what does THAT say about the talent evaluation going on at the QB position? Do we really wanna get into that?

Another point, and this is a VERY important one. Pat Julmiste signed up to play quarterback for a team that plays in front of 30,000+ people. Nowhere in the application for quarterback, does it say: "If you are a classy guy and you try your hardest, no one will boo you. If you cheer for your teammates and hold your clipboard in an upright and ready position, the fans automatically waive all rights to boo you and your performance."

Quarterback, and any position for that matter, is a performance based position. At QB, you either get ALL the praise (see: Blackwell, Grothe) or ALL the blame (see: Banks, Julmiste). Quarterbacks know this going in. These are grown men, folks. Not pee-wee football players. These men are old enough to fight for our country, they're not "kids".

From students to donors to walk up ticket buyers, every person in that stadium has a right to boo. It's what makes sports so great. People have favorite players and hated players, and like to debate about them. That's what makes the sports world go round!

Bottom line: Without booing, we'd have a stadium full of E.T.

absolutely untrue, without booing we'd have a stadium full af classy fans.

Maybe the next time a cop escorts one of your pals out of the stadium you can remember what a bit of common courtesy is like. Unreal, you get treated like **** and it's "poor me" but when you treat others like **** it's your "right"

Apparently you didnt read my post on page 4 of that thread. Do yourself a favor and go do that.

It's laughable that people are associating booing with "being classy". Everything in this world isnt flowers and lollipops, stop trying to make my football politically correct.

If a guy sucks, he's gonna get booed. It's not personal. I dont know Pat Julmiste from Adam. Bottom line is that if you play well, you wont get booed.

We have more than a full season of Pat Julmiste to base our opinions on. In his time as a starter, he threw more INTs than TDs, the USF Bulls had more losses than wins...AND in his GREAT BOWL SEASON, where he LED US TO A BOWL(one in which he was 8-25 91yds 1 INT and we were shut out 14-0 when A Hall ran for 118yds on 19 carries), the Bulls finished the year with a 6-6 record.

I read your quote and find it absurd. This isn't the pro's and these students aren't professionals playing for the money. These are students of USF playing for their school and as such they should be supported. If you have problems, ***** about it with your friends, ***** about it here, send letters or make calls to the coaches or administration, however booing a student athlete IS classless and if you can't see that then hey it's not my fault you can't see beyond a trailer trash mentality.

I'll deal with the problems I have with USF Football the way I choose and you can do the same. While at USF games I might decide to boo someone, coach, player, ref, anyone really, anyone that I feel like booing for a whole host concievable reasons.  Whether you agree with it, like it or not.  GO BULLS!

spoken like a true inconsiderate ass

[smazza]

This whole booing thing is pretty pathetic. I was totally hoping PJ would drive the team down the field to shove that crap right back in the faces of those who thought booing was the right thing to do.

As it turned out, PJ didn't do any worse than Grothe did in the first series after coming back in. But we don't boo that. Oh wait-- you guys didn't even bother to see what PJ would do, you just booed him for existing. That is beyond weak and I am embarassed to know we have that many "fans" who find this to be the appropriate response.

Sure- it's your "right" to boo. But it it is not the "right" thing to do.

you are still hoping pj can play the qb position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it aint happening

others are more realistic

because you choose to sit on your hands when you see something wrong others choose to express their displeasure by booing

pj playing qb is wrong and paying fans are sick of him being rammed down their throats.we already know pj cant play qb,put in gregory or severino.

you think if pj drives for a td that is some vindication?   :o :o :o

back to reality- pj held on to ball too long and usf had too punt.same ole same ole

[smazza]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I EVEN WANT TO BOO THE PICTURE

[Sunshine]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I EVEN WANT TO BOO THE PICTURE

I want to boo this post.

[Bullish]

I had to go back and read this thread again because I was having such a mundane day that I needed to put a smile on my face.

I have to laugh my arse off at how some mightier then thow posters talk about the classless fans who booed PJ (right or wrong - not the purpose of my post). In response to those that disagree, the same posters resort to cussing, personal threats, insults and rude comments to prove their point.  Thanks again for the laughs and have a great day!!

[E.T.]

Someone insults a fellow BULL ... I think the angry retorts are warranted.

[smazza]

I had to go back and read this thread again because I was having such a mundane day that I needed to put a smile on my face.

I have to laugh my arse off at how some mightier then thow posters talk about the classless fans who booed PJ (right or wrong - not the purpose of my post). In response to those that disagree, the same posters resort to cussing, personal threats, insults and rude comments to prove their point.  Thanks again for the laughs and have a great day!!

you notice the intolerant hypocrisy

[smazza]

Someone insults a fellow BULL ... I think the angry retorts are warranted.

you insult me  and others all the time because we  dare to point out usf athletics imperfections