SilverBull Posted July 17, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,458 Reputation: 1,428 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted July 17, 2023 While I understand the original premise for NIL and think I understand the NCAA's position, I can say by firsthand knowledge that many university and NCAA officials are not sure how it all will work in application. As I understand it, NIL programs were intended to provide avenues for independent funding of student athletes for their name, image and likeness. However, now it appears more and more that the schools are becoming using it as a mechanism to directly pay players. I've heard that some are even using game pay guarantees to fund this. I don't even pretend to understand that under current NCAA guidelines. I think the first real regulation of all of this will come from the IRS. https://www.on3.com/nil/news/the-new-nil-collective-model-its-illegal-but-its-the-future-texas-arkansas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 17, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,621 Reputation: 3,313 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, SilverBull said: While I understand the original premise for NIL and think I understand the NCAA's position, I can say by firsthand knowledge that many university and NCAA officials are not sure how it all will work in application. As I understand it, NIL programs were intended to provide avenues for independent funding of student athletes for their name, image and likeness. However, now it appears more and more that the schools are becoming using it as a mechanism to directly pay players. I've heard that some are even using game pay guarantees to fund this. I don't even pretend to understand that under current NCAA guidelines. I think the first real regulation of all of this will come from the IRS. https://www.on3.com/nil/news/the-new-nil-collective-model-its-illegal-but-its-the-future-texas-arkansas/ I have said that and was told by admin that is not true... but I think they have to say that wink wink I compare it to people busted with an escort and their defense was they were only paying for their time with the escort not sex . Schools are paying for the time the athlete plays at their school disguised as image and likeness. Edited July 17, 2023 by Outlaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Bull Posted July 17, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 454 Reputation: 196 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/08/2021 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: I have said that and was told by admin that is not true... but I think they have to say that wink wink I compare it to people busted with an escort and their defense was they were only paying for their time with the escort not sex . Schools are paying for the time the athlete plays at their school disguised as image and likeness. Fake and corrupt, just like most other institutions now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 17, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,621 Reputation: 3,313 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, 00Bull said: Fake and corrupt, just like most other institutions now. Boosters are using it to directly pay players but that is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted July 17, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 hours ago, CousinRicky said: Don't know how a guy that seems okay can not get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Bull Posted July 17, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 454 Reputation: 196 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/08/2021 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Boosters are using it to directly pay players but that is nothing new. Yeah, it’s not new but the mainstreaming of it is completely antithetical to the draw of college football. After more than a decade we are uncommitted on season tickets. It’s as much due to what I see as the corruption of college football in general as it is the current state of USF football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 17, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,621 Reputation: 3,313 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, 00Bull said: Yeah, it’s not new but the mainstreaming of it is completely antithetical to the draw of college football. After more than a decade we are uncommitted on season tickets. It’s as much due to what I see as the corruption of college football in general as it is the current state of USF football. Can't say I blame you. I must see major improvement this year. If not, I'm dropping my stuff and all usf donations until they prove they deserve my dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted July 17, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,719 Reputation: 5,860 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted July 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, Triple B said: When we chatted on Brad's Happy Hour he was fine to chat with. I mean, even YOU are fine to talk with in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF_Bullsharks Posted July 17, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 11 Content Count: 879 Reputation: 480 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/24/2021 Share Posted July 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Can't say I blame you. I must see major improvement this year. If not, I'm dropping my stuff and all usf donations until they prove they deserve my dollars. Not so fast - VPoAMK has given you an extension to continue to support our Bulls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 17, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,621 Reputation: 3,313 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, USF_Bullsharks said: Not so fast - VPoAMK has given you an extension to continue to support our Bulls. With the qualifications being so low to get extended should I even be excited? Edited July 17, 2023 by Outlaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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