NovaBull Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 1,294 Reputation: 324 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/2013 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, goingbackbull said: I don't think him recruiting will be a problem, my only worry is how will he handle his frustration when a 19 year old kid doesn't understand his play book Seriously, I can see it now: Gruden: “What’s wrong with you, didn’t you watch Hard Knocks?!?! Execute ******* spider 2 Y banana!!!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFguy1977 Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 38 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2013 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 hours ago, goingbackbull said: He is not a homophobe and racist . Just google what all his black players have said about him. If you have never called anybody gay or homo then you are a liar. All guys call their freinds or enemies those names doesn't mean your a homphobe your just a dude The very fact that you would call someone "gay" or "homo" as an insult is indicative of a negative attitude or disposition towards gay people. That is the TEXTBOOK definition of homophobia. One does not have to hate or mistreat people to be prejudiced against them. If you think that all men walk around calling each other "gay" or "homo" then the issue is your limited social circle. There are plenty of "dudes" out there who do not. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,140 Reputation: 4,643 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, goingbackbull said: Another thing I'm thinking about Gruden. Does he bring in some ex Bucs to the staff. D Brooks as D coordinator, Sapp as DL coach, Shaun King back ect Not sure if they would be great coaches but recruiting Tampa would be insane In theory that sounds epic, but I question how into all the recruiting nonsense and dealing with kids he would be. He likes working with veterans that can just know what he wants them to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFguy1977 Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 38 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2013 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I really don't get all the love for Gruden. He won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team. Outside of that, he had far more losing seasons than winning seasons. With all of the baggage that comes with him, I just don't get it. Ed Orgeron won a National Championship and has had far more success on the college level and yet he isn't even a blip on most people's radar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usf97 Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 179 Content Count: 3,649 Reputation: 461 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that pretty much anyone that has been named will do a better job with these players than Jeff Scott. Gruden, Orgeron, Frost, Taggart, Skip Holtz, Leavitt, Charlie Strong, Rich Bisaccia, Trent Dilfer, etc. I don't think we could possibly be disappointed Michael Kelly has set the bar fairly low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-Bull Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 121 Reputation: 102 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/06/2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, USFguy1977 said: He won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team. And yet Dungy was unable to lead the Bucs to a Super Bowl with Dungy's team. I get that you don't want Gruden as USF's next coach, but don't diminish Gruden's accomplishments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, USFguy1977 said: I really don't get all the love for Gruden. He won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team. Outside of that, he had far more losing seasons than winning seasons. With all of the baggage that comes with him, I just don't get it. Ed Orgeron won a National Championship and has had far more success on the college level and yet he isn't even a blip on most people's radar. i was ed orgeron fan 10 years ago before he went to lsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,140 Reputation: 4,643 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted November 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, USFguy1977 said: I really don't get all the love for Gruden. He won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team. Outside of that, he had far more losing seasons than winning seasons. With all of the baggage that comes with him, I just don't get it. To be fair, under the tail end of the Bucs era remember the Glazers were not spending money at all and wouldn't bring in any star players. Then when we had Schiano or whoever, they were signing all of these huge stars to get to the salary FLOOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestBull Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 61 Content Count: 2,354 Reputation: 699 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted November 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, USFguy1977 said: The very fact that you would call someone "gay" or "homo" as an insult is indicative of a negative attitude or disposition towards gay people. That is the TEXTBOOK definition of homophobia. One does not have to hate or mistreat people to be prejudiced against them. If you think that all men walk around calling each other "gay" or "homo" then the issue is your limited social circle. There are plenty of "dudes" out there who do not. Not sure how calling someone who is gay, gay is textbook definition of homophobia? If anything the definition of homphobia is one who fears gay people and homosexuality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted November 8, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted November 8, 2022 We definitely have to make a run at Coach Prime. We probably can't afford him, but we have to take a shot. He is exactly what this program needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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