College Game Day opening video

[chapelbull]

3 minutes ago, michibull said:

The system maybe flawed but I have two question's: has there been a team left out of the CFP that would have won the National Championship? For the most part, hasn't the best team won the National Championship? Before you start throwing out a bunch of teams that "on any given Saturday" could win, I don't want to hear that garbage. Anybody with a half, rational brain will tell you that it has done a better job than any system we have had. Expanding the CFP will only dilute the process and then you'll get 2 and 3 loss teams in there. The point of the 4 team CFP is money and to ensure you at least have the best team in the country (not to give out participation ribbons); and it does that. Period. 

The "better" team loses in the playoffs all the time.  That's why they play playoffs on fields/courts, etc. and not in boardrooms.  If the regular season "counts", then Bama should have been eliminated in the last week.   Sure didn't see MLB let the Brewers go to the World Series because they were "better" than the Dodgers.  Cubbies didn't get to keep playing because they were "better" than the Rockies. Those are playoffs.  

You got the point of the CFP is money part right though.  Exclamation point!

[chapelbull]

21 minutes ago, Chem-E-BULL Reaction said:

8 teams p5 champs best g5 champ two at large. All conf games increase in meaning. Also can have more interesting OOC matchups without blue bloods gerrymandering. 

 

But that makes sense so will never be

Come on,  why would we want conference champs to get in when we can let 3rd place teams in because they look better?

[michibull]

12 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

The "better" team loses in the playoffs all the time.  That's why they play playoffs on fields/courts, etc. and not in boardrooms.  If the regular season "counts", then Bama should have been eliminated in the last week.   Sure didn't see MLB let the Brewers go to the World Series because they were "better" than the Dodgers.  Cubbies didn't get to keep playing because they were "better" than the Rockies. Those are playoffs.  

You got the point of the CFP is money part right though.  Exclamation point!

That's right, the better team loses in the playoffs and regular season alike, for example: Alabama lost to Auburn, Auburn lost to LSU and UCF, LSU lost to Troy, Troy lost to South Alabama, South Alabama lost to Georgia State, Georgia State lost to Tennessee State therefore Tennessee State would beat Alabama. Just because someone loses 1 game, doesn't mean they are not the best team. Again, one of the main reasons for a 4 team playoff is to ensure you do have the 1 or 2 best teams and a wild card or two. I don't understand the fascination with always wanting to expand the playoff. If the only reason you desire to expand the playoff is to "let" someone in that otherwise wouldn't get in, that's a bit of a problem in of itself. I think we can all agree that 99/100 times, the best team in the country isn't #5 or higher; they are somewhere in the 1-4. This isn't the NCAA tourney where we can have 168 teams and a Butler can come out of nowhere; College Football isn't like that. 

[chapelbull]

Just now, michibull said:

This isn't the NCAA tourney where we can have 168 teams and a Butler can come out of nowhere; College Football isn't like that. 

We know, that's the problem.

[BullsWinBucsWin]

Someone ask Herbstreit if he still thinks App State should be ranked ahead of UCF/USF.  They’re getting housed by GA Southern

[chapelbull]

4 minutes ago, BullsWinBucsWin said:

Someone ask Herbstreit if he still thinks App State should be ranked ahead of UCF/USF.  They’re getting housed by GA Southern

Of course they should.  That's a quality loss right there

[michibull]

19 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

We know, that's the problem.

But my question is, why is it the problem? Just because our school or conference doesn't have a seat at the CFP dinner table, doesn't mean we deserve one. If we made the CFP as a 4 team playoff and lose, that is really special, if we make it as an 8 team playoff, well, it just means we won our conference. We talk about how UCF winning the AAC is not as difficult as it was when we were in the BE, it's because we know that it's way harder to play well week in and week out. We know that just the top few teams in the AAC are as good as most P5 conferences, so there is some truth to an 11-1 Bama getting in over a 13-0 UCF who had to play Tulsa, Tulane, UCONN, ECU etc. I have great pride in our school and conference, but I'm also a realist. If you take an objective view of the system, it's actually not bad at all. For the most part every CFP game has been great, sure there's been a Mich State game here or there, but overall, the best teams have been there; that's all we can really ask for as college football fans. 

[chapelbull]

1 minute ago, michibull said:

But my question is, why is it the problem? 

Because over half of the **** teams in the FBS are eliminated from the playoffs before a game is played (and not just G5 schools).  That's why it's a problem.   There'd be no Butler if the basketball tourney was run this way

[MikeG]

26 minutes ago, BullsWinBucsWin said:

Someone ask Herbstreit if he still thinks App State should be ranked ahead of UCF/USF.  They’re getting housed by GA Southern

careful-- we've lost both games we played against Georgia Southern. Granted that was before 2000. But still.

[michibull]

4 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

Because over half of the **** teams in the FBS are eliminated from the playoffs before a game is played (and not just G5 schools).  That's why it's a problem.   There'd be no Butler if the basketball tourney was run this way

Yeah, because they're not good enough. Football is not like basketball. Basketball is about match ups more than anything, you consistently get small schools beating big schools, it happen all of the time. Football, not so much. Football is almost always who is bigger, stronger and faster, unless you have horrible coaches and bad luck. All of the best recruits go to the same 5-10 schools, they are over packed with talent. Basketball talent gets more spread out and 1 and dones, small schools with seniors and juniors can play smarter and more disciplined games to win over the more talented ones. If you can tell me any teams at the end of the year ranks #5 and higher, that was legitimately better than the two teams who played in the natty that year, we can talk; because OSU, UCF, Wis, PSU and TCU were not better than Ala, UGA, Okl or Clem, therefore, the CFP did its job.