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This video gives some perspective into how far USF has come. For those who are new to USF Football its worth the watch. Note the 7 minute mark, K. Mitchell hit at OU.

4 -3 because that is statistically winning.

Find that Youtube link of Kawika Mitchell filling that gap at Oklahoma or the McKenzie "bring your feet" hit on Steve Slaton. That's the USF football I know! There is a reason why there are so many players from the past teams who found their way into the NFL.

Hard to debate the article. This article shows the patience of the USF fan base. But on the other side of the coin it can show how easily "fans" can walk away. "The Bulls have won only three of their past 12 games. Can you imagine the uproar if this was Tuscaloosa or Tallahassee, College Station or State College?"

Blackwell was the most balanced of all three. Went into Pittsburgh and helped to pull out the improbable upset.

Mitchell, Nicholas are the easy choices. The third is tough DeDe, Sam or McKenzie?

"it will be a big game for them" that sums up everything.

Is there something equivalent to a LeavittTown?

This whole thing is bizarre and confusing. Lanaris: "To Bullsnation, i apologize for the performance of our D. As a senior, i accept full responsibility and vow for it to never happen again" http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/ --- This is confusing since Lanaris does not make the defensive play calls nor does he determine the defensive schemes --- Holtz: "I think there's an awful lot we as coaches can do. I think there's an awful lot we as players can do," coach Skip Holtz said. "I think there's some ownership that needs to fall on the coaches, and some of the scheme things that we did. I think there's ownership that needs to fall on the players from an effort and execution standpoint as well, things that we've covered. I think this football team is very disappointed in themselves. I think they know they're better than that." http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/ -- This is confusing since Holtz uses "we as coaches" and "we as players" ultimately trying to neutralize the blame between coaches and players --- Breaking down the pronouns... Lanaris tweeted "i accept full responsibility". I listened to Holtz's entire speech on gousfbulls.com and he never stated, "I as head coach take or accept responsibility" basically he just spread the blame across everyone coaches and players. I figure if a player puts their neck out there then so should the head coach. But if one individual taking responsibility is not the style of the team then as the head coach Holtz should acknowledge what the player tweeted and state something to make it clear that it is not an "I" thing it is a we, us and out thing. To not only verbalize where the team stands but to also give something to the fans who support the team. This was a missed opportunity by the coach. Being a head coach at this level is almost like being a politician you have to continuously manage the message and this one seems to be mixed.

Since Holtz's arrival the defense has been on the decline. If the decision was made to only replace the defensive coordinator, who would you seek? Randy Shannon (Current TCU LB Coach) Kevin Steele (Former Clemson DC and Baylor HC) Tyrone Nix (Former South Carolina DC) Others (?)

Since USF will not be able to buy out Skip's contract, the next option is to find a new defensive coordinator. This will be a valuable step to remedy the situation. Offensively USF has improved since Skip arrived but the defense has gone way down.

Who you hire someone who has worked at 5 organizations in 12 years? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cosh

The practice on Sunday is normal. The team takes off on monday's.

Genshaft, Woolard, and Holtz are all in this boat together. (Or should I say in the late night private jet together.) I have to assume that the USF athletic department and the USF president, understanding that football funds most of the other sports believe that Skip Holtz is going to take this program to the next level. With the next level means more revenue. So when there were rumors that Skip may leave for another job they went "nuts" and gave him a contract extension on a "5-7" losing season thinking it was an anomaly. Well through the first four games of this year that anomaly looks more like normalcy. I am sure there is a fair amount of debt on the books for the updated basketball area, the football practice fields, and the updated baseball and softball fields. I am willing to assume that the football program is the key to paying off that debt, hence the reason why Holtz gets paid more than Genshaft and Woolard combined. I think it is time to start cutting back. No more Vero until you earn it. Based on current on field production it does not appear to make a difference.

Some "fans will show up but they will not be wearing any USF paraphernalia

gobulls83, good point. So USF gets another 2 years of Skip and the losing continues, season ticket sales will go down, recruiting will be impacted and USF football will be less relevant than it is today. (No chances of moving to a better conference) If USF athletics can deal with this financially then I do not see a problem.

Highest Paid Coach in the Big East. (#35 in the nation) http://coacheshotsea...esContracts.htm

Maybe they should turn our the neon lights in the locker room.

Never understood why people compared Holtz to Kragthorpe. But now I get it. If Holtz does not turn things around on the football field their records could be similar in three seasons. The difference is USF will stick with him for a few more years, my guess is at least 5 years for Skip. Steve Kragthorpe (15 - 21) 2007 Louisville 6–6 (3–4) 2008 Louisville 5–7 (1–6) 2009 Louisville 4–8 (1–6) Skip Holtz (15 - 14) 2010 South Florida 8–5 (3–4) 2011 South Florida 5–7 (1–6) 2012 South Florida 2–2 (0–1)

or he could say...

Lets see how I graded out: We were one play away (Wrong) Ball State is a great team they played hard (Correct) The WR made a great play in the corner of the endzone (Correct) Too many penalties (Correct) BJ played a great game (Correct) I missed the "Wind" which oddly enough is the same "Wind" that Ball State was playing with. But 4 out of 5 is not bad. from http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/

Revising the numbers: September (2 - 3) {Note: I think FSU wins hands down} October (1 - 2) November (2 - 1)* December (0 - 1) 5 - 7 (No bowl game = No Bonus Payout) Note: *With the inability to stop the run it will be challenging to beat UConn and Miami. The team may have a shot against Cincy.

Yeah USF lost that game then the following game to Oklahoma by 17 and finished the season 9 -2. Skip Holtz would dream for a season like that.

Have a hard time thinking its the defensive coordinator. The only consistent is the Head Coach.

Completely agreed. The offensive line can not block which means BJ will be on the run all day. If you thought the performance against Rutgers and Ball State was a bad FSU will be disturbingly worse. And if you think that was bad. Wait until you see how the defense performs.