USFBulls727

Can you please not use the words "Skip" and "next season" in the same sentence, especially with a possible coaching change coming

I was thinking the same about Charlie being back. This has to be an enormous headache for Kelly right now. I think Charlie gets at least half of the 2020 season to turn things around, mostly because there is no other choice for Kelly (I'm guessing). Will be interesting to see what ticket sales look like in 2020 if CCS is back.

Ok, fair enough. Not sure Taggs would want to come back anyway. Will be interesting to see what decent coach we will be able to afford if we do in fact let CCS go.

We lost on the road to a Temple team that won the conference that year, and lost to Dalvin Cook and #13 FSU....that's it. 11-2 record, and you're saying "No Thanks!". Just curious, who do you want here? C'mon man. He got another job, and we did win that bowl game....which if I remember correctly, we were favored in....

You'll be looking just as hard, and still failing to see any football conference championship here by any coach in our history, and it doesn't appear that there will be one anytime soon. Taggart came as close as anybody though, and at least put an exciting product out there along the way.

Hopefully we find a guy who can do something like this again.

https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-who-s-no-is-this-farewell-for-charlie-strong/article_b1d8bed8-0f79-11ea-ad3c-b7b260d8f392.html Bottom 5: 5) Texas 4) Rutgers 3)Akron 2) Miami 1) Charlie Strong

Great, absolutely spot on post. You'd think Taggart was winless in his four seasons here judging by the way he gets bashed here. Jilted lover syndrome is correct.

We are going to be a stepping stone for whoever comes through here and has any success. Honestly, are you expecting a coach to come here, be super successful, and be a career USF Coach? CJL was that one in a million guy who would have stayed, but things have changed. The AAC is a stepping stone conference for coaches. I'm kind of amazed that people are holding that against Taggart. He moved on to bigger and better things. Didn't work out for him, but can't blame the guy for taking his shot at the big time. You can't possibly be serious with this. There were a few, such as "The Team" on the back of the jersey, but you live and learn. He got things turned around. Came up a little short on winning the conference in 2016, but it was a fun ride. What were your expectations of him?

The onside kick would probably go out of bounds before traveling 10 yards, giving UCF great field position. I'm with you though. Nothing to lose. Use whatever trick plays we have.

What successful coach in the AAC stuck around for more than 3-4 years? That has been the pattern, and always will be as long as we're in this conference. Scott won't turn down P5 money if he comes here and wins. I wouldn't put Taggart on any Mount Rushmore of great coaches, but USF is a good fit. He recruits the area well, and can put together an offense that will work for him. Not saying he's the #1 HC on my list, but I'm alright with him coming back, should that happen. As we've seen, we can do worse.

Do you think ANY successful coach will stick around here, or with any AAC team? Outside of Navy's coach (so far), nobody stays in the AAC if there's a better option. If your criteria for hiring a new HC includes him sticking around here after having some success, that narrows it down to approximately nobody.

Or, he could let King run his own offense. Where would BJM go in your scenario?

Don't mean to sound like a broken record, but for those who think QF made Taggart, consider this: Nobody else was recruiting Flowers at QB. Not sure Flowers was a guy who could thrive in ANY offense just by his ability to improvise. He really did nothing noteworthy in Taggart's original offense here. Many on this board criticized him for throwing a horrible ball (which was true). If he was at a school that ran a Pro Style Offense, like Temple for example, not sure we ever would have heard of him. He really didn't become the Human Highlight reel until the GCO came around. That offense was hard to defend, and put receivers in space where they could make plays. There was no offense better suited for QF than that. He did have a good year in Gilbert's offense, but his completion percentage dropped by about 10%, and he had 500 fewer rushing yards. I don't think anybody would have gotten more out of Flowers than Taggart did. FWIW, I think Evans could potentially be another Flowers. He's an obvious weapon that the current regime has no idea how to use. The GCO would work here again. The some of the pieces are already in place.

With our abundance of $$$, I expect us to hire a top notch HC, who will spend the next 30 years here, and go 32-0 vs. Top 25 teams. I mean, what's stopping us? We were once in the Big East with a #2 ranking....

Just curious...what were you expecting from him? He did what Rhule did at Temple, Fuente did at Memphis, Herman did at Houston, Frost did at UCF, Morris did at SMU...etc..etc... They bolted when a better opportunity arose. It will always be that way in the AAC. We're the Minors Leagues. Unlikely we will ever have a successful coach stick around here, unless we wind up in the P5.

Sean Gleeson would be a good fit. Runs a good offense that I think would work here. He got a look at OC before they went with Bell. Not one of Charlie's better moves.

That applies to any AAC coach. Was the GCO Kinnan's brainchild? Wonder if Taggart can truly replicate that offense again without Weist or Kinnan around? He must have that playbook around somewhere. I believe he was hands-on with the offense back then. I usually just want to move forward when it comes to new Head Coaches, but I wouldn't mind getting that GCO back here. Weist would be Ok with me too.

That wasn't a playground offense, it was designed to take advantage of the talent we had....particularly QF....and it did exactly that. I think we actually have the pieces right now for the GCO to maybe work well. Will have to disagree with you on Tags being terrible. He's kind of hard to evaluate right now. Somebody (Puc I believe) questioned whether CWT was just a flash in the pan or not with the one good season he had here. He never stuck around with any of the programs he was beginning to turn around, so I guess there is no definite answer to that. If he came back with the GCO though, I wouldn't have any problem with that.

Can't help but wonder what the GCO would look like with Evans at QB, Joiner (or Ford perhaps?) at RB, and Weaver on the Jet Sweep. Definite potential there, but him coming back here seems unlikely.

That's pretty rare I'm guessing. Drifting off topic here, but he barely missed out on the National Championship game in 2009. Cincy went 12-0, and ended up #3 in the final poll of the regular season. They would have been in the playoffs under today's format. Florida demolished them in the BCS Bowl though. https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings/_/week/15/year/2009/seasontype/2 Even further off topic....WVU was #2 going into the final week of the season in 2007, with a 10-1 record, and only had to beat Dave Wanstadt's 4-7 Pitt team to make the Nation Championship game, and blew it. Their only loss to that point was vs. us. Sorry, got to thinking about the Big East days.

Brian Kelly was in a similar situation to Frost when he got his undefeated Cincy team to a BCS bowl in 2009. Kelly did what most coaches would have done and bolted before the BCS bowl. I like that Frost came back. Not sure there are many who would have done the same.

Ok. I wanted Taggart to stick around for that bowl, but I like the results we had with TJ. I liked what Frost did by coming back and coaching the bowl game for UCF after he was hired away by Nebraska. Not often you see a coach do that.

I also thought Charlie went 11-2 in 2017, but forgot about the game that was cancelled due to the hurricane. In all likelihood, we would have been 11-2 had we played that game. Don't forget though, we went 11-2 in 2016, and Taggart coached 10 of those games, so he had a 10 win season too.

Taggart went 10-2 in 2016. TJ Weist went 1-0 that year as Head Coach (Bowl game) Charlie went 10-2 in 2017. Nobody has ever won more than 10 games in a season here, even when you include bowl wins.