slick1ru2 Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Don't blame the students. It got to this due to the greed of schools, shoe companies, TV networks, etc. made college football and basketball into a money machine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,003 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I don't, completely. Plenty to go around - their greed and ungratefulness of their opportunity to be educated. Their lawyers - also looking to grab a buck. It's the side effect of a good market economy. Business owners ruin their businesses all the time. Then something better emerges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 You don't see this in other countries because they didn't monetize college sports. College football is a cash cow. Either take the money out, and revert to a true amateur system or spread it around and stop complaining. Those that can't afford it, drop it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,003 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You've mentioned that before. I don't care what colleges in other countries do. Since when did that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,003 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Well, you picqued my curiosity. I had to go to renowned sports expert, Wikipedia because much else would be too much effort. Individual countries Australia University sport has received little academic attention in Australia.[3] In 1863, rugby union was first played in Australia at the University of Sydney when several clubs affiliated with the university were established.[3] One of Australia's earliest cricket teams was founded at the University of Sydney in 1854. This university affiliated team is one of the only teams from that period that still exists.[3] Canada Main article: Canadian Interuniversity Sport University sports are viewed as having a positive social impact in Canada.[4] The Federal government is involved with university sport.[5] Wrestling is a university sport in Canada, with the system helping to provide future and current members of the Canadian national wrestling team.[5] China University sport was established in China by the 1930s. One of these programs was at the Catholic University of Peking. In 1936, members of the team traveled to Japan as members of a team to participate in a basketball and association football competition.[6] During the early stages of World War II in the region, most universities suspended their sport programmes. The exceptions were Fu Ren University and Yanjing University which kept these programmes open until 1942 before shutting them down.[6] Chinese universities organised boat races before the cultural revolution. These races were modeled after the boat races in England.[7] Japan University sport was established in Japan by the 1930s.[6] By 1977, ultimate Frisbee had been established as a university sport. National championships were held that year with Aichi Gakuin University winning the inaugural event.[8] Mexico Universities are affiliated with soccer teams that are professional. One such team is the Universidad Autonoma Pumas[9][10] New Zealand Main article: New Zealand University Games New Zealand universities's sports teams normally compete in local sports leagues against non-university teams. There is an annual national event which covers a large number of sports and competitive cultural activities (such as debating). The event is typically held over Easter, rotating around university centers.[citation needed] South Africa During the 1970s, the National Union of South African Students worked to create a university sport programme where race was not considered in team and competition arrangements. The organisation faced some governmental hurdles. At the time, inter-racial sport was only allowed to be played on private grounds, which meant games and competitions could not be played on public university grounds. They had models from the University of Witwatersrand and the University of Cape Town which had already held such events.[11] United Kingdom Main article: British Universities and Colleges Sport British Universities and Colleges Sport (BUCS) is the governing body for university and college sport in the UK. It runs leagues in 16 sports and an annual championship meeting, which in 2011 covered 19 sports.[12] England There were undergraduate boat races in Victorian England,[7] and The Boat Race between Oxford and Cambridge is still a notable annual event. During the 1990s, ultimate frisbee became a popular sport in England with events organized on many university campuses. This university participation would help lead to the establishment of a national sport federation for ultimate Frisbee.[8] Wales Universities in Wales support national development of athletics. One example of this is the Wales National Pool at Swansea University which with local government constructed a pool for high level development of swimming in Wales.[13] United States For the United States system, see College athletics in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Colleges in other countries do t have their student athletes suing them because their school is making millions off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,003 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Just think had ESPN been hatched in another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,003 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Colleges in other countries do t have their student athletes suing them because their school is making millions off them. There, now we are getting to the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Colleges in other countries do t have their student athletes suing them because their school is making millions off them. There, now we are getting to the issue.Yes, in the U.S. College sports has become a billion dollar industry, amateur in name only. It's treated as an amateur sport just to not pay the players, no other country does it. They have students that go to school to learn. You don't have to go to college to go to a pro sport like you do in the U.S. Something like 3 players in the past decade made it to the NFL and NBA in the past decade due to the rules they have, the NCAA forced these athletes to attend college to have a chance at pro sports, making huge sums off them as students . It's why there are academic scandals, they don't want school, they want the NFL but they have to attend to get a shot,,catch 22.http://www.amazon.com/The-System-Scandal-Big-Time-Football/dp/0385536615 "The best book on the sport written in years (and that's coming from someone who has written a couple). The System will shock fans as the saturation reporting peels back the veneer on everything from coaching politics, to sexual tension in tutoring labs, to the role of recruiting hostesses, to back-stabbing conference realignment, to super boosters, and so on. Even the hardcore fans, though, will be surprised -- everyone knows this is a wild business, just not in such detail...There's just no way a college football fan won't devour this book." --Dan Wetzel, Yahoo!Sports "The System is hands-down the best college football book I've ever read. It is that rare non-fiction book that reads like a great crime novel in that you just can't put it down. The System covers the good, the bad and the ugly in the world of college football, including an inside look at a walk-on being picked in the first round of the NFL draft, big-time college football scandals and an epidemic of criminal behavior by players on campus. It's a completely unvarnished look at the second-most popular sport in the country that will leave you aghast at the underworld that exists beneath college stadiums." --Jim Weber, LostLettermen.com "There is a major storm brewing on college football's horizon. At the eye of the storm is a book that is a must-read for hardcore college football fans who want to know the truth about 'The System.'" --Frank Cooney, The Sports Exchange "[A] harrowing and occasionally uplifting journey -- or literary trip -- through recent history and across the country's most football-obsessed campuses." --Harvey Araton, The New York Times "One of the most sweeping yet meticulously researched books ever written on big-time college football...."The System" isn't just a good read. For anyone who cares about major college athletics, it is a vital read. "The System" isn't about one aspect of college football. It's about every aspect....arresting....in the end, the beauty is not in the shock value, but in the detail, shocking and mundane, that is so carefully presented." --The Hartford Courant "The System is a broad survey of the machinery of college football: the money and marketing, the recruiting and classroom pampering, the off-the-books privileges. The authors trace the efforts of various programs and coaches who try to avoid the excess and trickery and do right by their student-athletes. But clearly the system is hard to beat, and it has a corrupting effect on nearly everyone involved." --The Wall Street Journal "I just read and can't stop extolling The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian (reviewed below). I expected scandal, I expected feel-good stories; what I didn't expect was a book so riveting that I missed my bus stop...Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian have given us a thrilling read." --Marilyn Dahl, editor, Shelf Awareness for Readers About the Author JEFF BENEDICT is one of the country’s top investigative reporters. He is a special features contributor for Sports Illustrated and the author of ten critically acclaimed books, including Pros and Cons and Out of Bounds. His essays and articles have appeared in the New York Times, Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times, among other publications. ARMEN KETEYIAN is a CBS News correspondent based in New York and the lead correspondent for 60 Minutes Sports on Showtime. An eleven-time Emmy Award winner, he is widely regarded as one of the finest investigative journalists in the country. He is also the author or coauthor of nine previous books, including Money Players and Raw Recruits. Edited August 23, 2014 by slick1ru2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,003 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You don't have to go to college to be a pro athlete. I think the rules made by the pro leagues is their issue, that doesn't force players to college. I think we're talking about the NFL only, right? Don't players go from high school to the MLB and NBA? Maybe I need to pay closer attention. Perhaps your ire should be focused on the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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