FazaUSF Posted March 27, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 94 Content Count: 2,305 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 11 Joined: 09/15/2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 To The Holier-Than-Thou Mega-Fans: Good for you. You are better than others. To the Defender-of-Mediocrity-and-Steadfast-Supporter-of-Cliff-Jumping-Lemmings Fans: there cliff is over there. Apologies. Now that I read other threads and pay attention to who is posting, methinks you may have taken personal affront to my post. I hadn't intended to single anyone out with my post; it was a general proclamation made in hopes of provoking re-examination of folks' opinions. I can see if one had taken this personally, one might take affront. And cheers & beers back to ya'll above!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I didn’t spend a decade in higher education (BS/MD/MBA) and go a half a million dollars in debt just to have my future job given to someone who lies about having a degree. Columbia for all three degrees? That's a lot of debt. Miami. Believe me, while sitting in business classes, I kicked my formerly med-school-bound idealistic self for failing to consider my projected debt level when choosing a graduate school. I remember talking to you in undergrad (some honors college event) and thinking exactly this while you were talking about how well crafted your plan was. Just remember, you may have wised up some, but those with more life experience might have reason to be a little cynical and jaded. You might know more now, but not everything, which is why people take issue with the condescension of the "TRUE fans" (not just - or even at all - you, just a common problem here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Every school has true fans as well as the not so true fans. They can also be divided, in this case as sensible and nonsensible. You can cut a fan base several ways. And, hopefully, USF is not blamed for that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Every school has true fans as well as the not so true fans. They can also be divided, in this case as sensible and nonsensible. You can cut a fan base several ways. And, hopefully, USF is not blamed for that too. And you, like everyone else in this world, think the "sensible" ones are the ones who agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FazaUSF Posted March 27, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 94 Content Count: 2,305 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 11 Joined: 09/15/2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 I didn’t spend a decade in higher education (BS/MD/MBA) and go a half a million dollars in debt just to have my future job given to someone who lies about having a degree. Columbia for all three degrees? That's a lot of debt. Miami. Believe me, while sitting in business classes, I kicked my formerly med-school-bound idealistic self for failing to consider my projected debt level when choosing a graduate school. I remember talking to you in undergrad (some honors college event) and thinking exactly this while you were talking about how well crafted your plan was. Just remember, you may have wised up some, but those with more life experience might have reason to be a little cynical and jaded. You might know more now, but not everything, which is why people take issue with the condescension of the "TRUE fans" (not just - or even at all - you, just a common problem here). Cheers. Points well-made. Re-reading my initial post with yours in mind, I probably came off a little strong. But there are some posts in some other threads that absolutely amaze me, and it's hard not to feel disappointed with a vocal corner of our fanbase. Did I really try to convince you that my plans were "well-crafted?" Haha, I would have done well to heed your financial foresight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I didn’t spend a decade in higher education (BS/MD/MBA) and go a half a million dollars in debt just to have my future job given to someone who lies about having a degree. Columbia for all three degrees? That's a lot of debt. Miami. Believe me, while sitting in business classes, I kicked my formerly med-school-bound idealistic self for failing to consider my projected debt level when choosing a graduate school. I remember talking to you in undergrad (some honors college event) and thinking exactly this while you were talking about how well crafted your plan was. Just remember, you may have wised up some, but those with more life experience might have reason to be a little cynical and jaded. You might know more now, but not everything, which is why people take issue with the condescension of the "TRUE fans" (not just - or even at all - you, just a common problem here). Cheers. Points well-made. Re-reading my initial post with yours in mind, I probably came off a little strong. But there are some posts in some other threads that absolutely amaze me, and it's hard not to feel disappointed with a vocal corner of our fanbase. Did I really try to convince you that my plans were "well-crafted?" Haha, I would have done well to heed your financial foresight! It's been so many years now that I don't remember what you actually said, but I wish I could say I had some brilliant foresight for you at the time. Instead I just nodded while thinking "**** maybe I'm crazy and need to get on the ball like that guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PCBull14 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 In this age of immediate gratification, internet blogs being given similar credence to legitimate news outlets, and the Twitterfication of society (read: emasculation), I say to hell with anyone who clogs our feeds with their whining, plugs up our favorite internet board (TBP) with their naysaying, and announces their blind, poorly considered, inane support for the idea that USF did anything wrong in its hiring process of Steve Masiello. Does it bother me that USF isn’t hiring Masiello? No. He lied about having a degree. Good for USF for putting its foot down and standing up for values. UCF can hire him, he’d make for a great pair with George O’Leary. I didn’t spend a decade in higher education (BS/MD/MBA) and go a half a million dollars in debt just to have my future job given to someone who lies about having a degree. You expect someone you're looking to hire isn’t a liar (or stupid enough to be) and you expect your search firm to do their job. USF did everything right here with the hiring process. Perhaps I can agree that the media relations mismanagement (or lack thereof) was our biggest shortcoming, but then again, that is why Harlan has been hired. Quite frankly, the Twitterverse mentality of "I NEED NEWS NOW AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW AND I'LL ACCEPT ANYTHING SOMEONE TWEETS AS TRUTH" is responsible for this non-hire to even be considered a surprise among fans. Was the search firm too slow? It's hard to blame them…. UK is only open business hours. Have you ever sat on the phone with a university's administrative offices? Nothing happens as quickly as you can Tweet 100 unfounded misconceptions about it. You can update your Facebook profile 100 times before you can secure a copy of your degree audit. The under-24-hour lapse between signing a contract and a background check discovery is actually a pretty fast turnaround, even considering today's corporate atmosphere. Some internet posts by members of our OWN FAN BASE have been quite unnecessarily negative towards USF, and this sort of hotheaded knee-jerk reaction has made its way around the social media universe. It has influenced opinions much more than traditional news media, akin to shooting ourselves in the foot. Reasonable reporting from news media outlets has generally not endorsed an aghast reaction to USF's handling of the hire. If anything, any negativity is generally (and appropriately) directed towards the fact that Masiello lied on his resume. Have some respect - we did it better than Notre Dame. The entire bruhaha is quite laughable. For anyone who has seen the movie Idiocracy, I reiterate my hope that it gets remade with a larger budget someday soon because its writers were spot-on. If you haven't seen it, you should watch it. If you don't understand it, you're probably exactly the kind of hide-behind-your-computer annoyance who contributes to the progression to its ultimate prediction. USF fans should employ a little intelligence, a little patience, a little class, and lay off your university for standing up for what should matter. In Bull Pride. Bravo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Every school has true fans as well as the not so true fans. They can also be divided, in this case as sensible and nonsensible. You can cut a fan base several ways. And, hopefully, USF is not blamed for that too. And you, like everyone else in this world, think the "sensible" ones are the ones who agree with them. Just a way to divide, take it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Every school has true fans as well as the not so true fans. They can also be divided, in this case as sensible and nonsensible. You can cut a fan base several ways. And, hopefully, USF is not blamed for that too. And you, like everyone else in this world, think the "sensible" ones are the ones who agree with them. Just a way to divide, take it easy. I understand. I take no personal offense. Just an observation, much like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted March 27, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I agree. The fan base needs to chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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