WarFlamingo Posted March 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 88 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/01/2012 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Having played baseball at the better Baseball school in Tampa I can tell you it is based off of reputation alone. Top end prospects want to get to the minors I don't think USF has been very successful transitioning players to the next level. Its bad that a D2 school has a clear recruiting edge in the same city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 28, 2013 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,076 Reputation: 10,846 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Baseball has been an underperformer for decades. The excuse used to be facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcocky101 Posted March 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,803 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2007 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Having been recruited in baseball out of high school...USF has a terrible baseball reputation in the state and schools will steer players towards Juco ranks before sending them to USF because they can leave for the pros sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScherdinNine18 Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 276 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Having been recruited in baseball out of high school...USF has a terrible baseball reputation in the state and schools will steer players towards Juco ranks before sending them to USF because they can leave for the pros sooner. When I was recruited by Cardieri, USF was too unfamiliar with me and I wasn't sold. But I screwed up and went back to the school I ended up graduating from...just not to play ball. So if the consensus seems to be recruiting, can we hire CWT part time to help get this program up and running. Or find a staff that will to help change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,468 Reputation: 1,139 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Baseball has been an underperformer for decades. The excuse used to be facilities. We were darn close to a trip to Omaha in 1996. At FSU's regional, we were leading FSU in the mid to late innings after winning a couple games before playing them. JD Drew homered. Our Head Coach and top assistant both got tossed and it slipped away. Win that game and we were in good shape (but not a lock) to advance. There were no super regionals back in those days, so one team from that regional advanced to the College World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,468 Reputation: 1,139 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Having been recruited in baseball out of high school...USF has a terrible baseball reputation in the state and schools will steer players towards Juco ranks before sending them to USF because they can leave for the pros sooner. For those who don't know what is being referenced. Go to a Juco, get your AA and you can turn pro in 2 years. Go to a 4 year college, you can't turn pro until after your junior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SattyBull Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 1,390 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/09/2007 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Having been recruited in baseball out of high school...USF has a terrible baseball reputation in the state and schools will steer players towards Juco ranks before sending them to USF because they can leave for the pros sooner. For those who don't know what is being referenced. Go to a Juco, get your AA and you can turn pro in 2 years. Go to a 4 year college, you can't turn pro until after your junior year. False. Juco players are eligible after their first year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,468 Reputation: 1,139 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Having been recruited in baseball out of high school...USF has a terrible baseball reputation in the state and schools will steer players towards Juco ranks before sending them to USF because they can leave for the pros sooner. For those who don't know what is being referenced. Go to a Juco, get your AA and you can turn pro in 2 years. Go to a 4 year college, you can't turn pro until after your junior year. False. Juco players are eligible after their first year as well. Ok, I didn't know that ... sorry for the bad info ... But the part of those who chose a 4 year school having to wait 3 years is true. So the correction further makes the Juco even more attractive. Baseball is weird in the there is so much incentive not to get a 4 year degree (for those talented enough to have pro aspirations.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Is there any recruiting going on at Sarasota HS (Sailors)..They seem to have a great program No, he only recruits Jesuit. See my post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SattyBull Posted March 29, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 1,390 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/09/2007 Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Having been recruited in baseball out of high school...USF has a terrible baseball reputation in the state and schools will steer players towards Juco ranks before sending them to USF because they can leave for the pros sooner. For those who don't know what is being referenced. Go to a Juco, get your AA and you can turn pro in 2 years. Go to a 4 year college, you can't turn pro until after your junior year.False. Juco players are eligible after their first year as well. Ok, I didn't know that ... sorry for the bad info ... But the part of those who chose a 4 year school having to wait 3 years is true. So the correction further makes the Juco even more attractive. Baseball is weird in the there is so much incentive not to get a 4 year degree (for those talented enough to have pro aspirations.) And yet every other school in the state has been able to largely overcome this, besides USF (and FAMU but they suck at everything). But let's not get it confused, the best players out there are not choosing Juco over playing for a solid D1 program. It's mainly the fringe guys that choose to play at a Chipola JC or Polk State rather than go somewhere out of state and pay out of state tuition to play at some crummy program. Or the guys that were drafted in high school, want to improve their draft stock and don't want to wait 3 years. A friend from high school was going to play JC ball in florida until Rice scooped him up. He played 4 years, got his degree and was drafted in The 10th round last year. Another went to Polk State instead of going out of state. He pitches for Bethune-Cookman now. It obviously depends on the kids situation, however. A lot of guys start out D1 and then transfer out after a year. There are a lot of factors at play. Go look at a solid juco or D2 program roster and look at "previous school" and chances are there are about a half dozen that came from top tier programs. Edited March 29, 2013 by SattyBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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