Big East TV Deal

[FazaUSF]

When the star high school QB beats his girlfriend, does she run back to him when it's time to go to the prom, or does she take the guy who isn't as popular and isn't as rich but treats her right?

 

[charsibb]

When the star high school QB beats his girlfriend, does she run back to him when it's time to go to the prom, or does she take the guy who isn't as popular and isn't as rich but treats her right?

 

 

 

Depends on how smart she is...

[Bull-by-Marriage]

NBC all the way, we need promotion right now...not money...we'll just load up with road games to big schools and take the checks.

I get that NBC Sports would promote us, but I'd go on a limb and say a promoted BE game won't fare well on a network like NBC Sports?

Has anyone here really seen the mountain West blow up after being promoted like hell on CBS Sports? No.

 

 

You keep trying to compare NBC Sports Network, to CBS sports network. What leagues does CBS sports hold the rights to? NBCSN have the rughts to NHL, MLS, FI, BPL, Izod Indy? CBSSN has none, they don't have any professional leagues under contract. As of next year NBCSN will have all of those. They also have the "Dew action sports". NBCSN is on the up, CBSSN is on the downfall. On verizon, NBCSN is on HD, not so much for CBSSN. Just because one venture failed doesn't mean they all will. We are in the New Big East, we need a fresh start.

[slick1ru2]

We should get streaming on NBC Sports website like they do with Notre Dame.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38985841

 

[charsibb]

Don't know if they have the bandwidth to do a dozen games at once like ESPN can, but I remember watching the NBC web feed while we were playing ND, and I was very impressed.

[Joe]

NBC all the way, we need promotion right now...not money...we'll just load up with road games to big schools and take the checks.

I get that NBC Sports would promote us, but I'd go on a limb and say a promoted BE game won't fare well on a network like NBC Sports?

Has anyone here really seen the mountain West blow up after being promoted like hell on CBS Sports? No.

You keep trying to compare NBC Sports Network, to CBS sports network. What leagues does CBS sports hold the rights to? NBCSN have the rughts to NHL, MLS, FI, BPL, Izod Indy? CBSSN has none, they don't have any professional leagues under contract. As of next year NBCSN will have all of those. They also have the "Dew action sports". NBCSN is on the up, CBSSN is on the downfall. On verizon, NBCSN is on HD, not so much for CBSSN. Just because one venture failed doesn't mean they all will. We are in the New Big East, we need a fresh start.

That's great that its up. It's nowhere near ESPN and never will be. It's not even in the same atmosphere as the new Fox channel(s) that are coming out.

The MLS is smart enough to keep primary rights with ESPN. Sports like F1, and EPL soccer are niche at best. The NHL has died a slow ratings death on NBC Sports.

For the type of money being discussed its not worth jumping ship.

[Quo Vadis]

Hate ESPN, but I gotta agree with Joe. I just can't comprehend how the Catholic 7 is getting more...

 

The Catholic 7 is getting more because those schools have the coin of the realm in today's media world: Brand-name recognition. Sure, Bulls fans like us know that USF has been much better on the basketball court in recent years than say DePaul, but to the average college basketball fan, the kind likely to tune in for a game, DePaul is a name they have been aware of all their lives whereas USF doesn't ring a bell. All of the C7, even the bottom of the list, are brand names that have long college basketball histories. No, none of them save arguably Georgetown is in the true ultra-elite with the likes of Duke and Kentucky, but Duke and Kentucky fans know all about Georgetown. They know about Villanova, St Johns, DePaul and Marquette too. They are all "in the club", so to speak.

 

And because ALL of the C7 have at least some name recognition, there are lots of airable matchups. Georgetown - Villanova is a good game, so is Villanova-St Johns, St Johns - Marquette, Marquette-Providence, etc. Kentucky and Duke fans will casually watch those games.

 

But, the same is true for only 3-4 Big East teams (going forward).  Basically, the only Big East programs with any value are UConn, Memphis, and Cincy basketball, and Temple as well. That's what NBC is paying for. And that value is diluted by lots of matchups with no-names. UConn-Cincy is worth broadcasting. But UConn - UCF or UConn - ECU? Not so much.

 

And in football, NONE of the teams that will be in the Big East from 2014 forward move the brand-recognition needle at all. Thus, our football "inventory" is largely worthless. There is virtually no audience for UCF - Memphis football games.

 

That's just where we stand right now.

Edited February 17, 2013 by BatonRougeBull87

[Triple B]

Hate ESPN, but I gotta agree with Joe. I just can't comprehend how the Catholic 7 is getting more...

 

The Catholic 7 is getting more because those schools have the coin of the realm in today's media world: Brand-name recognition. Sure, Bulls fans like us know that USF has been much better on the basketball court in recent years than say DePaul, but to the average college basketball fan, the kind likely to tune in for a game, DePaul is a name they have been aware of all their lives whereas USF doesn't ring a bell. All of the C7, even the bottom of the list, are brand names that have long college basketball histories. No, none of them save arguably Georgetown is in the true ultra-elite with the likes of Duke and Kentucky, but Duke and Kentucky fans know all about Georgetown. They know about Villanova, St Johns, DePaul and Marquette too. They are all "in the club", so to speak.

 

And because ALL of the C7 have at least some name recognition, there are lots of airable matchups. Georgetown - Villanova is a good game, so is Villanova-St Johns, St Johns - Marquette, Marquette-Providence, etc. Kentucky and Duke fans will casually watch those games.

 

But, the same is true for only 3-4 Big East teams (going forward).  Basically, the only Big East programs with any value are UConn, Memphis, and Cincy basketball, and Temple as well. That's what NBC is paying for. And that value is diluted by lots of matchups with no-names. UConn-Cincy is worth broadcasting. But UConn - UCF or UConn - ECU? Not so much.

 

And in football, NONE of the teams that will be in the Big East from 2014 forward move the brand-recognition needle at all. Thus, our football "inventory" is largely worthless. There is virtually no audience for UCF - Memphis football games.

 

That's just where we stand right now.

 

Pretty dead-on synopsis, IMO ...

[Florida Bull]

Hate ESPN, but I gotta agree with Joe. I just can't comprehend how the Catholic 7 is getting more...

The Catholic 7 is getting more because those schools have the coin of the realm in today's media world: Brand-name recognition. Sure, Bulls fans like us know that USF has been much better on the basketball court in recent years than say DePaul, but to the average college basketball fan, the kind likely to tune in for a game, DePaul is a name they have been aware of all their lives whereas USF doesn't ring a bell. All of the C7, even the bottom of the list, are brand names that have long college basketball histories. No, none of them save arguably Georgetown is in the true ultra-elite with the likes of Duke and Kentucky, but Duke and Kentucky fans know all about Georgetown. They know about Villanova, St Johns, DePaul and Marquette too. They are all "in the club", so to speak.

And because ALL of the C7 have at least some name recognition, there are lots of airable matchups. Georgetown - Villanova is a good game, so is Villanova-St Johns, St Johns - Marquette, Marquette-Providence, etc. Kentucky and Duke fans will casually watch those games.

But, the same is true for only 3-4 Big East teams (going forward). Basically, the only Big East programs with any value are UConn, Memphis, and Cincy basketball, and Temple as well. That's what NBC is paying for. And that value is diluted by lots of matchups with no-names. UConn-Cincy is worth broadcasting. But UConn - UCF or UConn - ECU? Not so much.

And in football, NONE of the teams that will be in the Big East from 2014 forward move the brand-recognition needle at all. Thus, our football "inventory" is largely worthless. There is virtually no audience for UCF - Memphis football games.

That's just where we stand right now.

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1. The Carltholic 7 get more respect than we do. Obviously, Georgetown is well-known, although much of their fame came with the help of Syracuse. St. John's and Villanova have great locations, and Marquette is playing very well. But, I am not so sure seven are big national brands.

Marquette-Providence is a national rivalry? I doubt big Kentucky and Duke fans really care about small private schools they have no connection to; they would probably only watch like most other college basketball games outside of their conference of interest. Normally, probably if it is on and no other significant games are on.

2. Navy has a brand with some name recognition. UConn has one of the 50 largest college football fanbases.

Edited February 18, 2013 by Florida Bull

[slick1ru2]

Don't know if they have the bandwidth to do a dozen games at once like ESPN can, but I remember watching the NBC web feed while we were playing ND, and I was very impressed.

Bandwidth is cheap. Especially when you are promising promotion as part of your package.