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As I pointed out in another thread, the recruiting sites are often wrong and over look talent. Some examples, George Selvie, NR, Justin Blackmon was a 3 star WR, Chris Johnson 1 star, Colin Kaepernick 2 star. The number of high school recruits rated 3 stars and under by these websites that go one to be star college athletes is huge. They also go the other way too, over rating players. That's why its up to the coaching staff to get to rate these players.

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This is typical talk from a fan of a team with a crappy class so far. Bottom line is, this class is underwhelming so far. Hopefully, the staff can pick it up soon. Oh, and stars do matter and it's easy to play the exception game when you want to make people feel better.

I guess that you think that Skip had one of the best classes ever at USF. Using the star system our class last year has to rank among the best.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/usf-655http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/usf-655

 

Yea, Skip had a good class last year based on rankings. What's your point? 

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CWT doesn't think very much of the recruiting sites

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I hope CWT got the staff he wanted because he took his sweet time getting it together in time for a decent class this  year,, IMO there is absolutely zero reason why USF would not be in the top 20 in

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As I pointed out in another thread, the recruiting sites are often wrong and over look talent. Some examples, George Selvie, NR, Justin Blackmon was a 3 star WR, Chris Johnson 1 star, Colin Kaepernick 2 star. The number of high school recruits rated 3 stars and under by these websites that go one to be star college athletes is huge. They also go the other way too, over rating players. That's why its up to the coaching staff to get to rate these players.

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This is typical talk from a fan of a team with a crappy class so far. Bottom line is, this class is underwhelming so far. Hopefully, the staff can pick it up soon. Oh, and stars do matter and it's easy to play the exception game when you want to make people feel better.

I guess that you think that Skip had one of the best classes ever at USF. Using the star system our class last year has to rank among the best.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/usf-655http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/usf-655

 

Yea, Skip had a good class last year based on rankings. What's your point? 

 

 

As I pointed out in another thread, the recruiting sites are often wrong and over look talent. Some examples, George Selvie, NR, Justin Blackmon was a 3 star WR, Chris Johnson 1 star, Colin Kaepernick 2 star. The number of high school recruits rated 3 stars and under by these websites that go one to be star college athletes is huge. They also go the other way too, over rating players. That's why its up to the coaching staff to get to rate these players.

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This is typical talk from a fan of a team with a crappy class so far. Bottom line is, this class is underwhelming so far. Hopefully, the staff can pick it up soon. Oh, and stars do matter and it's easy to play the exception game when you want to make people feel better.

I guess that you think that Skip had one of the best classes ever at USF. Using the star system our class last year has to rank among the best.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/usf-655http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/usf-655

 

Yea, Skip had a good class last year based on rankings. What's your point? 

You said stars matter.

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Yes, they do matter imo. Skip pulled a couple of 4 star recruits and some high 3 star recruits. There's a difference between a 3 star recruit with offers from god knows where, compared to a recruit with offers from legitimate schools. I don't care to argue anymore, just wanted to give my opinion.

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Yes, they do matter imo. Skip pulled a couple of 4 star recruits and some high 3 star recruits. There's a difference between a 3 star recruit with offers from god knows where, compared to a recruit with offers from legitimate schools. I don't care to argue anymore, just wanted to give my opinion.

 

And you are certainly entitled to it.  Unfortunately, with recent lack of success coupled with USF not in a power 5 conference, pulling the kids we used to will be more difficult unless we can start winning again.  This class will not be that great, star-wise, but if it makes the sting go away somewhat, Mike White was ranked by ESPN and they gave him a pretty good ranking and scouting report.

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Yes, they do matter imo. Skip pulled a couple of 4 star recruits and some high 3 star recruits. There's a difference between a 3 star recruit with offers from god knows where, compared to a recruit with offers from legitimate schools. I don't care to argue anymore, just wanted to give my opinion.

 

And you are certainly entitled to it.  Unfortunately, with recent lack of success coupled with USF not in a power 5 conference, pulling the kids we used to will be more difficult unless we can start winning again.  This class will not be that great, star-wise, but if it makes the sting go away somewhat, Mike White was ranked by ESPN and they gave him a pretty good ranking and scouting report.

 

I just noticed that the other day, something like a 77 ranking which isn't that bad. Believe me, I know it's going to be hard recruiting the better players in FL after what Holtz did the past 2 years. I guess I'm just venting my frustration man. We'll see what happens after singing day.

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Yes, they do matter imo. Skip pulled a couple of 4 star recruits and some high 3 star recruits. There's a difference between a 3 star recruit with offers from god knows where, compared to a recruit with offers from legitimate schools. I don't care to argue anymore, just wanted to give my opinion.

USF's 2005 class, with Grothe (unranked btw), was mostly unranked. Only 6 out of 19 were actually ranked by Scout. That was the class (Taurus Johnson, Selvie, Murphy, Plancher, Hester, etc) that got to #2. The only difference between "a 3 star recruit with offers from god knows where, compared to a recruit with offers from legitimate schools" is who's doing the evaluating.

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As I pointed out in another thread, the recruiting sites are often wrong and over look talent. Some examples, George Selvie, NR, Justin Blackmon was a 3 star WR, Chris Johnson 1 star, Colin Kaepernick 2 star. The number of high school recruits rated 3 stars and under by these websites that go one to be star college athletes is huge. They also go the other way too, over rating players. That's why its up to the coaching staff to get to rate these players.

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This is typical talk from a fan of a team with a crappy class so far. Bottom line is, this class is underwhelming so far. Hopefully, the staff can pick it up soon. Oh, and stars do matter and it's easy to play the exception game when you want to make people feel better.

 

What exactly are you talking about? Who is talking specifically about this class. This was said in response to all the best recruits will be snatched up by the best schools. There are more great athletes than scholarships, you just have to find them. CWT is going to evaluate them himself, not relying on Scout or Rivals, who have been proven WRONG, repeatedly. How about getting on the same page as the rest of us?

This whole thread is related to our current class even if it's not directly stated so. I'm talking about a class that is below average so far and there's no disputing that. I'm sure coach CWT is doing a fine job evaluating talent, but he hasn't had enough time and this class will be average at best because of this. If being on the same page as the rest of you is accepting an average class, then I'll pass. I'm rooting for the guy though and I hope I'm wrong.

 

 

We're, at best, an average program so why wouldn't we be getting, alleged, average recruiting classes .... and besides, what other option do we have other than accepting it??

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Yes, they do matter imo. Skip pulled a couple of 4 star recruits and some high 3 star recruits. There's a difference between a 3 star recruit with offers from god knows where, compared to a recruit with offers from legitimate schools. I don't care to argue anymore, just wanted to give my opinion.

 

And you are certainly entitled to it.  Unfortunately, with recent lack of success coupled with USF not in a power 5 conference, pulling the kids we used to will be more difficult unless we can start winning again.  This class will not be that great, star-wise, but if it makes the sting go away somewhat, Mike White was ranked by ESPN and they gave him a pretty good ranking and scouting report.

I just noticed that the other day, something like a 77 ranking which isn't that bad. Believe me, I know it's going to be hard recruiting the better players in FL after what Holtz did the past 2 years. I guess I'm just venting my frustration man. We'll see what happens after singing day.

 

 

Holtz's influence on future recruiting classes is negligible, especially compared to what's happening to the landscape of college football.

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Taggart and his coaches are recruit aholics. They are out and doing the best they can after a 3-9 season by the previous coach.

 

As for recruiting sites, pay more attention to offers and rankings, and even then nothing is for certain.

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