Bull-by-Marriage Posted April 25, 2010 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,741 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/25/2004 Share Posted April 25, 2010 That's such bull$hit logic."oh, we had more draft picks, we're better than them"Come on dude....Arizona State had 4 picks....so they're better than FSU? USF had 5 picks.....yet we can't even finish in the top 25???James Madison had 2 picks....does that make them a quality team cause they had more picks than some BCS schools?I agree, but here's better logic:17-7We're better than them.Possibly, or, "We were better than them that day". We may have "passed" them, which I don't think has happened BTW. But to say that were better than them based on 1 game is like saying BYU has passed Oklahoma, or any other upset team is better than the team they beat. On that day yes, but usually not overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbane Posted April 25, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,403 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/27/2005 Share Posted April 25, 2010 That's such bull$hit logic."oh, we had more draft picks, we're better than them"Come on dude....Arizona State had 4 picks....so they're better than FSU? USF had 5 picks.....yet we can't even finish in the top 25???James Madison had 2 picks....does that make them a quality team cause they had more picks than some BCS schools?I agree, but here's better logic:17-7We're better than them.Possibly, or, "We were better than them that day". We may have "passed" them, which I don't think has happened BTW. But to say that were better than them based on 1 game is like saying BYU has passed Oklahoma, or any other upset team is better than the team they beat. On that day yes, but usually not overall. Yeah, Ponder was injured before that game, too. He didn't have the same mobility. Their defensive staff sucked, too, and now they are all gone. I believe none of them landed anywhere good, either.They still had a great recruiting class, which is frustrating, but we have been a better team than them for 3 or 4 years. I just hope we improve as much as they might this season and that we can at least close the gap in recruiting starting this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Their defensive staff sucked because they didn't end up anywhere good? Where did our staff end up outside the 4 that were retained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I know for many on this board, arguing with the facts is a way of life, but what better measure of two teams is there than head to head results? Throwing out hypthetical situations or making excuses for why we won is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbane Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,403 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/27/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Their defensive staff sucked because they didn't end up anywhere good? Where did our staff end up outside the 4 that were retained? That's not why, that's just a result. Their defense was almost the worst in the nation last year, and they have talent. Speaking of having talent (5 players making NFL rosters) and underachieving, maybe our staff did, too, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull-by-Marriage Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,741 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/25/2004 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I know for many on this board, arguing with the facts is a way of life, but what better measure of two teams is there than head to head results? Throwing out hypthetical situations or making excuses for why we won is nonsense.I truly hope that the wide net that you've cast does not include me. I made no excuses about that day. I'm just pointing out that 1 game doesn't mean that team a is better than team b other than on that day. FSU beat the snot out of BYU in Provo last year, so does that mean that they and then we by succession are now a better program than BYU? On any given day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted April 26, 2010 We'd beat BYU a majority of times in a 7 game series. BYU is grossly overrated. BYU and Boise State are the two biggest overrated teams in the non-AQ conferences (TCU and Utah are legit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I know for many on this board, arguing with the facts is a way of life, but what better measure of two teams is there than head to head results? Throwing out hypthetical situations or making excuses for why we won is nonsense.I truly hope that the wide net that you've cast does not include me. I made no excuses about that day. I'm just pointing out that 1 game doesn't mean that team a is better than team b other than on that day. FSU beat the snot out of BYU in Provo last year, so does that mean that they and then we by succession are now a better program than BYU? On any given day. That's hypothetical. There's no result to prove it. I'm not advocating the use of such logic (in which case we would be better than the 2007 Florida Gators by way of their loss to AU whom we beat). I'm just looking at the result on the field, which no one can successfully argue against. Anything else is merely specualtion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampabull Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 771 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2009 Share Posted April 26, 2010 We'd beat BYU a majority of times in a 7 game series. BYU is grossly overrated. BYU and Boise State are the two biggest overrated teams in the non-AQ conferences (TCU and Utah are legit).didn't boise state beat tcu and oklahoma in bcs bowl games???? I agree with byu, but boise state??? They also beat a good oregon team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted April 26, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted April 26, 2010 We'd beat BYU a majority of times in a 7 game series. BYU is grossly overrated. BYU and Boise State are the two biggest overrated teams in the non-AQ conferences (TCU and Utah are legit).didn't boise state beat tcu and oklahoma in bcs bowl games???? I agree with byu, but boise state??? They also beat a good oregon team last year. Boise State is the master of getting up for 'Big Time' games. Just like we were under Leavitt really. The problem with our schedule was we had 'Big Time' games much more often. Boise gets to play 1 or 2 good teams a year (incl. their bowl game) and the rest of the games are against completely irrelevant teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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