Big East In serious trouble of being carved up (link)

[The Great 8]

Also, Sunburned, what current members were established after USF? I won't doubt I missed some but we'd definitely be very close to the youngest. Do  note those dates are not when the university was established. Most have been members long before we were even founded.

Do your own research.

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Since you apparently knew many off  the top of your head I figured you could enlighten us to our inferiority. After spending a bit more time looking at the list I'm convinced there's very very few schools, if any, on the AAU's list that were founded prior to our university.

[Guest AstroBull]

We've talked about what would happen if the Big 10 raided the conference. The first two articles are up.

The first article is what would happen if the Big 10 took one team

http://www.voodoofive.com/2010/4/20/1433872/big-10-expansion-and-usf-one-team

The second is what would happen if they took two or more from the Big East

http://www.voodoofive.com/2010/4/21/1434031/big-10-expansion-and-usf-three

I'll just add this picture in as well.

[Mama_Bull]

Also, Sunburned, what current members were established after USF? I won't doubt I missed some but we'd definitely be very close to the youngest. Do  note those dates are not when the university was established. Most have been members long before we were even founded.

Do your own research.

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Since you apparently knew many off  the top of your head I figured you could enlighten us to our inferiority. After spending a bit more time looking at the list I'm convinced there's very very few schools, if any, on the AAU's list that were founded prior to our university.

I didn't go through the entire list, but here are two which are younger than USF:

University of California, Irvine was founded in 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Irvine

University of California, San Diego was founded in 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego

The state of Florida is clearly underrepresented in the AAU. Both FSU and USF have been positioning themselves for future membership. I think it is only a matter of time before they will be added.

[Danm1983]

Minimal, and possibly more logical, situation:

-Big 10 adds Missouri, Rutgers, and Pitt. = 14 teams

-Big East adds Memphis, ECU, and UCF. Goodbye DePaul. = 9 football/16 basketball teams

-Big 12 adds Houston. = 12 teams

-C-USA adds Louisiana Tech, FAU or FIU, and Middle Tennessee State. = 12 teams

-WAC rolls with 8 schools, but may graduate Montana to Division I. (Montana has been great in football and basketball)

-SEC, ACC, and MAC stay put.

-Pac 10 decides not to expand, citing no good choices; Colorado wants to stay in Big 12.

-SunBelt has USA (South Alabama) coming up in 2013, so if they lose two teams, they'll be back to 8 when that happens. Maybe they'll bring up Appalachian State or North Alabama at some point.

-MWC keeps hold of Utah, BYU, and TCU, and gets the 7th automatic BCS bid. Utah would be the one good candidate for Pac 10 expansion, but with Colorado saying no, and BYU being not a great fit, Pac 10 stays put and the MWC teams prefer having the auto BCS bid and better chances at BCS games.

[The Great 8]

Also, Sunburned, what current members were established after USF? I won't doubt I missed some but we'd definitely be very close to the youngest. Do  note those dates are not when the university was established. Most have been members long before we were even founded.

Do your own research.

:

Since you apparently knew many off  the top of your head I figured you could enlighten us to our inferiority. After spending a bit more time looking at the list I'm convinced there's very very few schools, if any, on the AAU's list that were founded prior to our university.

I didn't go through the entire list, but here are two which are younger than USF:

University of California, Irvine was founded in 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Irvine

University of California, San Diego was founded in 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego

The state of Florida is clearly underrepresented in the AAU. Both FSU and USF have been positioning themselves for future membership. I think it is only a matter of time before they will be added.

Obviously those are younger. The UC system is about 100 years older though. Do we count different dates of founding for USF-St. Pete, USF-Lakeland, and USF-Sarasota? I know I don't.

I relent, there may be incidents like those which are indeed younger. The parent school is a great deal older though and if it didn't exist neither would it's children.

[Guest Sunburned]

I didn't go through the entire list, but here are two which are younger than USF:

University of California, Irvine was founded in 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Irvine

University of California, San Diego was founded in 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego

Mama, There's one on USF's football schedule.

[BullsFanInTX]

Hmm, not so fast on expansion says B10 Commish.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-04-21-big-ten-expansion-update_N.htm

Delany: Big Ten 'not anywhere near' expansion decision

The Big Ten Conference is still in the early stages of weighing whether and where to expand and is "not anywhere near" the point of identifying and approaching prospective new schools, commissioner Jim Delany said Wednesday.

"We have not accelerated anything," Delany said, refuting a Chicago Tribune report late last week that the league had stepped up its timetable.

In announcing it was exploring expansion beyond its current 11 members, the Big Ten said in December that Delany would take 12-18 months to draw up recommendations to its council of school presidents.

He met with the presidents in conjunction with semiannual meetings of the Association of American Universities in Washington, D.C., earlier this week, but described those discussions as routine.

While "I'm not saying it didn't come up," Delany said of expansion, he insisted it merely was one of several league issues addressed.

He declined to get into details of the discussions.

Delany is in Scottsdale, Ariz., for regular football Bowl Championship Series meetings through Thursday. He spoke to USA TODAY in a telephone interview.

Also in Scottsdale are other commissioners, including the Big East's John Marinatto and Big 12's Dan Beebe, and speculation had been rampant that Delany could serve them notice of the Big Ten's interest in talking to officials at Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Missouri and Nebraska, among other potential expansion targets.

"We'll work with our athletic directors and our presidents. If there's a need to have formal discussions about expansion with another institution, we'll reach out," Delany said.

"But we're still in the process of analyzing and gathering information, and we're not anywhere near what I would describe as formal expansion discussions with any member. We haven't changed anything, neither the timetable nor the process that was described."

[The Great 8]

I didn't go through the entire list, but here are two which are younger than USF:

University of California, Irvine was founded in 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Irvine

University of California, San Diego was founded in 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego

Mama, There's one on USF's football schedule.

Nice. You've finally stated one independent school  :.

I never meant to imply that we'd be the youngest school for certain. I implied that we'd be close to the youngest and that us not being an AAU member is not unreasonable as we'd have very little company when/if we do. It'd actually be quite an accomplishment to be added given our age.  That's not to take away from StonyBrook, it's a great school, I'm actually shocked to learn it's a few months younger than us. I've been there and it looks the part of an older traditional school.

For example, Pitt was 187 years old when it became a member. If we're added in the next 10 years we'd be about 60. Sunburned chose to belittle USF for not being a member, age alone is a major reason we're not a member yet.

[Mama_Bull]

I didn't go through the entire list, but here are two which are younger than USF:

University of California, Irvine was founded in 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Irvine

University of California, San Diego was founded in 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego

Mama, There's one on USF's football schedule.

Nice. You've finally stated one independent school  :.

I never meant to imply that we'd be the youngest school for certain. I implied that we'd be close to the youngest and that us not being an AAU member is not unreasonable as we'd have very little company when/if we do. It'd actually be quite an accomplishment to be added given our age.  That's not to take away from StonyBrook, it's a great school, I'm actually shocked to learn it's a few months younger than us. I've been there and it looks the part of an older traditional school.

For example, Pitt was 187 years old when it became a member. If we're added in the next 10 years we'd be about 60. Sunburned chose to belittle USF for not being a member, age alone is a major reason we're not a member yet.

Makes you wonder whether USF would already be a member of AAU, had they elected to be the University of Florida at Temple Terrace, as some people proposed at the time.

I agree, it's a lot easier to get into a club, when one of your own is aleady a member.

USF did $380 miilion in research in FY 2009, which is more than many existing AAU members. In fact USF is the fastest growing research university in the country since 2000. If our numbers continue to rise, it will be very difficult to keep us out.

[Guest Sunburned]

Makes you wonder whether USF would already be a member of AAU, had they elected to be the University of Florida at Temple Terrace, as some people proposed at the time.

I agree, it's a lot easier to get into a club, when one of your own is aleady a member.

If that were true , then why aren't any of the other 12 University of Wisconsin - Universities in the AAU ?  The University of Wisconsin - Madison has been in the "club" since the year (1900) the AAU was founded.