Dont BOOO Pat

[windbane]

Booing is a show of displeasure.  The very site of PJ on the field is worthing of booing.  Maybe they were booing the coaches for putting him in; don't we have other options?  Nothing classless about booing and if you disagree...Boo to you!  Go Bulls!

this anti boo thing is an offshoot of  usf fans not being around  big time sports. fans everywhere boo.there is nothing wrong with it.it is part of the game.

Preach it Mr. Smazza! I think you're on too something.  

yeah, it's part of the game.  but not when you are booing a replacement for an injured player.  that's stupid.  as stupid as cheering an injured player on the other team (before they get up).  no one here is anti-booing (as far as i've read), but booing a replacement...i dont know...i keep thinking that if i repeat this logic it'll make sense to people but i guess not.

i just dont see how booing your own players is helpful at all unless they do something stupid like hurt someone or have positive drug tests...ugh.

[MikeG]

I'll boo an opposing teams player doing something stupid

or a bad call by the refs

or a stupid fan running on the field

but players? no-- I don't boo our own players ever. That is just wrong unless they do something truly ignorant.

[Bullhonkey]

I'll boo an opposing teams player doing something stupid

or a bad call by the refs

or a stupid fan running on the field

but players? no-- I don't boo our own players ever. That is just wrong unless they do something truly ignorant.

You're pretty passionate about the antibooing.  Some are not so passionate, however, some are probooers.  

[smazza]

Booing is a show of displeasure.  The very site of PJ on the field is worthing of booing.  Maybe they were booing the coaches for putting him in; don't we have other options?  Nothing classless about booing and if you disagree...Boo to you!  Go Bulls!

it is your absolute right to boo

and dispite of people in this thread believe otherwise there were a ton of people that were booing when pj came in

you heard  it on TV

no body is an assclown(whatever that is) if they boo pj or disagree with pj coming in.

leavitt and smith simply demonstrate they dont have a clue of what is going on by putting pj in

isnt it obvious how uncomfortable pj is at qb postion.spare him,the fans and team. give playing time to gregory already.

how many times does pj have to fail before smith/leavitt get it?

if you disagree with something are you to just sit on your hands and say nothing?????

this anti boo thing is an offshoot of  usf fans not being around  big time sports. fans everywhere boo.there is nothing wrong with it.it is part of the game.

leavitt/smith are asking for it by putting pj in.after seeing grotheee,the fans will not tolerate such incompetence from qb position again.

you can't possibly be serious.

If you need to know what an assclown is, locate a mirror and stand in front of it.

Yeah-- PJ did a terrible job for USF while Grothe was getting taped up and tended to.

Let's see--

First play: NO PLAY-- holding on Capogna, result 1 and 20

second play: Williams rushes for 1 yard - 2 and 19

third play: Completed PASS to Johnson for 7 yards-- 3rd and 12

fourth play: PJ tucks it and runs for 8 hard yards, result 4th and 4

then we punt.

OK-- tell me where PJ failed USF coming in cold from the bench in that series-- DESPITE THE BOOING from the assclowns?

you can't you can't see a ******* thing when it comes to this situation because you have your head shoved so far up your own ass that you can't make a rational decision. Someone with 23 starts at the QB position is your most experienced player. I'm fairly certain you were on the anti-Ronnie Banks crew back in the day-- screaming for Ronnie to be replaced by PJ. Then PJ comes in and you give him a play or two and then ask for someone else to come in. Typical no-nothing Tampa fan where the second string QB is always the fan favorite.

You sir-- know ZERO about football. Quit representing that you know anything. 40000 posts of total horsefeathers-- that's all you have ever contributed to this board.

you are the typical sycophant kiss a$$ that  must defend the undefendable for fear of losing camera privileges

i woud keep on replacing incompetent qbs until i found a competent one.i wouldnt stick with pj for 3 years.

14-15 since 2004 with no 1aa or cusa championships  says it all.

and you cant see your shoes you are so ******* overweight. there isnt a mirror big enough for you to see your entire body. YOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO CALL NAMES AND GET PERSONAL.

CANT YOU DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITHOUT NAME CALLING.

to suggest that paying customers shouldnt boo  is assine

hell yeah pj failed.the idea in football is too move the ******* ball and not go 3 and out.

stop looking at my number of posts and start reading them

i have been trying to teach you this game for 7 years. do you have some mentation problem?

who cares if pj started 23 games.HE   CANT PLAY THE QB POSITION.HE IS FROZEN AND CANT GET BALL OUT OF HIS HAND.

[smazza]

Come on MikeG

Quit attacking everyone that doesn't line up and agree with you.

Facts are

1   PJ didn't get us to a Bowl Game, Hall did!!

2   Coaches gave him a chance to start the season (maybe because he is a SR and they felt he was even

3   He was healthy and the coaches haven't put him in to start

4   Each time he has come in since NOTHING good has happened.

5   If the Coaching Staff would give Gregory the reps in pratice and the "mop up" duty (few as it is) he would be getting ready.

5   We need a backup QB for next )and later) years

Booing the players IS bad!!!

I'll address your "facts" above point by point....

POINT#1  "1   PJ didn't get us to a Bowl Game, Hall did!!"

Really-- was that Andre taking the snap? I missed that part last season.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the concept of TEAM. Andre of course was the most important element to offensive success-- no doubt. But PJ had his moments both good and bad.

POINT #2 "2   Coaches gave him a chance to start the season (maybe because he is a SR and they felt he was even"

Great interpretation of what you think happened at the beginning of the year. PJ was starting and Grothe was designed to come in for the second half. They didn't expect McNeese to be that tough of a game (who the hell did?). PJ wasn't doing too badly (although the running game was sucking terribly) before he banged up his leg, which hastened the entry of Grothe.  

POINT #3 "3   He was healthy and the coaches haven't put him in to start"

At what point did I ever say PJ earned the starting job? Dude-- Grothe came in and wowed ALL OF US. He wonthe job outright-- Pat will admit as much. I'm not clamoring for PJ to ever start again unless Grothe can't play. Get your so-called "facts" straight-- those were not my thoughts on this. Truth of the matter was-- and this came from CJL during the press conference-- PJ bruised his thigh during the game while being tackled. Rather than having him play banged up any further, they put in Grothe. PJ could have kept playing but why risk more injury? That's not very smart. So Grothe goes out there, settles in and kicks ass. He won the job right then. Hands down. No further need to evaluate based on practice-- this kid can flat out play in game time situations. Practice has never been a decent indicator of how well someone would do. Hell-- Ronnie Banks is in the practice Hall of Fame-- but he would fold under pressure. Pat wasn't quite that bad but he wasn't quite good enough either-- he was missing the IT factor.

POINT #4 "4   Each time he has come in since NOTHING good has happened.

"

OK-- so it's his fault for the holding penalty which occurred on the first play when he came in for a hurt Grothe. The guy comes off the bench-- cold as hell -- and still almost gets us a first down. He completes a pass and runs for some yardage but we have to punt. Wow-- terrible things happened just then. The next time he was in, the game was in the bag.  

POINT #5 "5   If the Coaching Staff would give Gregory the reps in pratice and the "mop up" duty (few as it is) he would be getting ready."

How incredibly short-sighted of you to say this. First of all-- make no mistake about it-- PJ is our second string QB. As such-- even he needs game time work to prepare him better for those times when he gets called in to relief Grothe. Also - Grant Gregory is not quite ready for the second string position. He might have potential as the #2 guy next year but this is THIS YEAR. Are you telling me that should Grothe get hurt at some point-- say before the Pitt game-- and Pat needs to play that you want him coming in not having worked some actual game time this year? C'mon-- he needs the work because he is the first guy off that bench. If they both get hurt-- ok-- now we've got a serious problem. But short of that-- your coaching opinion is just wrong.

POINT #5 (the second Point 5-- ???? ) "5   We need a backup QB for next )and later) years"

We will always need a backup QB. Why would you give work to the guy who is NOT your second option at this point? maybe you left already but Grant did get in the game at the very end. He didn't do anything more than hand off. We were running out the clock. I get a real kick out of these folks who probably have never even seen a practice. Do you realize how tight the timeline is for them to get in their work? Everything is structured to maximize the limited time they do have and while you don't think Grant or Severino or whoever aren't getting enough reps-- that isn't 100% accurate. They are all doing the same drills, working with the same receivers on a rotational basis. The only area that some get more work are the situational full contact drills where they rotate in Grothe and PJ for the most part and GG/Severino to a lesser extent. That's a coaches call and imo-- the right one.  

Hate PJ all you want but don't BOO just because he comes in for an injured player. THAT was the main point I made. But you opened this entire can of worms with mindless ********. I didn't jump down anyones throat from this board because their opinion differs from mine-- unless they were some of those people booing in the stands.

I will NEVER align myself with jackasses who feel BOOING is in anyway justified under these circumstances. That is total ******* horsefeathers. On that subject atleast-- we agree (apparently).

i only have to go to point one- YOU ARE DEFENDING PJ.USF  WENT TO A BOWL GAME IN SPITE OF PJ.PJ GOT BEATEN OUT BY A 3RD STRING DB FOR QB POSITION.IF USF HAD A REAL QB THEY WOULD HAVE WON AT LEAST 8 GAMES LAST YEAR

I COULD STUFF MIKEG'S FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE IN  A THIMBLE AND STILL HAVE ROOM.

NO NEED TO ADDRESS POINTS 2-5

[smazza]

Booing is a show of displeasure.  The very site of PJ on the field is worthing of booing.  Maybe they were booing the coaches for putting him in; don't we have other options?  Nothing classless about booing and if you disagree...Boo to you!  Go Bulls!

this anti boo thing is an offshoot of  usf fans not being around  big time sports. fans everywhere boo.there is nothing wrong with it.it is part of the game.

Preach it Mr. Smazza! I think you're on too something.  

yeah, it's part of the game.  but not when you are booing a replacement for an injured player.  that's stupid.  as stupid as cheering an injured player on the other team (before they get up).  no one here is anti-booing (as far as i've read), but booing a replacement...i dont know...i keep thinking that if i repeat this logic it'll make sense to people but i guess not.

i just dont see how booing your own players is helpful at all unless they do something stupid like hurt someone or have positive drug tests...ugh.

THE FANS ARE BOOING THE COACHING STAFF FOR PUTTING A PLAYER THAT HAS FAILED  TIME AFTER TIME.

PJ HAS DEMONSTRATED INCOMPETENCE AT THE QB POSITION.

FRANKLY THE FANS ARE TIRED OF IT.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

LEAVITT SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.MAYBE NOW HE DOES.BUT I DOUBLT IT BECASUE LEAVITT IS STUBBORN AND DOESNT WANT TO ADMIT HE MADE A MISTAKE BY PUTTING IN GREGORY.

THE FANS PAY AND THE FANS HAVE SPOKEN.

LET ME BREAK TO YOU GUYS.NEXT TIME PJ COMES IN THE BOOS WILL BE LOUDER. AND FOR A LONGER DURATION.

[smazza]

Booing is a show of displeasure.  The very site of PJ on the field is worthing of booing.  Maybe they were booing the coaches for putting him in; don't we have other options?  Nothing classless about booing and if you disagree...Boo to you!  Go Bulls!

this anti boo thing is an offshoot of  usf fans not being around  big time sports. fans everywhere boo.there is nothing wrong with it.it is part of the game.

Preach it Mr. Smazza! I think you're on too something.  

yeah, it's part of the game.  but not when you are booing a replacement for an injured player.  that's stupid.  as stupid as cheering an injured player on the other team (before they get up).  no one here is anti-booing (as far as i've read), but booing a replacement...i dont know...i keep thinking that if i repeat this logic it'll make sense to people but i guess not.

i just dont see how booing your own players is helpful at all unless they do something stupid like hurt someone or have positive drug tests...ugh.

YOU EVEN HAVE THIS WRONG

CANT YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT

I WOULDNT BOO KIDS THAT SCREWED UP.

THE FANS WOULDNT BOO ANY OTHER REPLACEMENT OTHER THAN PJ.THE FANS ARE NOT BOOING HIM.

THEY ARE BOOING THE COACHING STAFF FOR PUTTING IN A GUY THAT CANT PLAY THE POSITION.

THE FANS HAVE HAD IT  WITH THE PJ EXPERIMENT.

AS FOR HIS YOUNGER BROTHER.USF IS THE ONLY PLACE FOR HIM.LEAVITT GAVE PJ 10 MORE CHANCES THAN ANY OTHER COACH WOULD HAVE.

JOSH IS STILL ON TEAM AFTER FAILING DRUG TEST

JEWELMISTE FAMILY OWES USF.

HIS YOUNGER BROTHER NEEDS USF MORE THAN USF NEEDS HIM

[Zonald]

They should have put in Evan Kraky.  He's 6'4, 215 lbs and runs a 4.1 40. He's got a better arm than Grothe and better legs than Hall.  What is JL thinking????

Oh wait...

[E.T.]

[USFootball]

OK...this whole thing has kinda gotten out of proportion, all I was saying (And it just so happened to be Pat) dont boo someone for coming into a game after the starter got hurt. Pat just so happens to be our back-up. Im not trying to defend Pat, nor is he my favorite player are anything, but how is anyone expected to do well if the fans just give up?? Ohh well pats in, we might as well hand them over the game...give whoever the "BULL" is that is comes into the game some confidence, make them think, yah I got this, these people believe in me, whether they are Pat, Gregory, Denson, whoever, they are all Bulls and they arent getting paid millions of dollars like the pros do...