marino fans

[Apis Bull]

ya okay. Marino is the best to ever play the game.

there were so many qbs better than marino

MARINO IS ONE OF THE MOST OVERATED  football players ever

marino was only about marino

bart starr

roger staubACH

JOE NAMATH

FRAN TARKENTON

I WILL NAME OTHERs  NEXT TIME

What the hell has Tarkenton ever won?

[smazza]

ya okay. Marino is the best to ever play the game.

the best wins championships

the best performs the best on the biggest stage

the best mkes those around him better

marino doesnt come close to being the best

[smazza]

Hey now, Marino was the only great offensive player on his team for years...name the other Hall of Famers he played with.

Aikman had between 4-7 on his teams (depending who gets elected)

Bart Starr had 3 others

Staubach isn't a hall of famer and had 3 others who did make it on his teams

Tarkenton was just as much of a stat monster as Marino

I'm not saying Marino was the best ever, but he definitly didn't have the tools that the other teams did. He also was very loyal to the Dolphins, which is why he didn't run to the Steelers when he had the chance in 1996.

Final thing Smaz...How many 1000 yard rushers did Marino have on his teams in his 17 years in the league? Answer...ONE...1996 KAreem Abdul-Jabbar.

marino didnt want a great runner

he want all the passing records

you dont even know a hall of fame qb  when you see one

ROGER STAUBACH  

Roger Thomas Staubach. . .1963 Heisman Trophy winner. . . Four-year Navy service preceded pro play. . .Noted for last-minute heroics, guided Dallas to four NFC titles, Super Bowl VI, XII wins. . .MVP in Super Bowl VI. . .All-NFC five years . . .Career stats: 22,700 yards, 153 TDs passing; 2,264 yards, 20 TDs rushing. . .83.4 NFL passer rating best ever at time of retirement. . .Four-time NFL passing leader. . . Born February 5, 1942, in Cincinnati, Ohio.    

Roger Staubach joined the Dallas Cowboys as a 27-year-old rookie in 1969 and didn't win the regular quarterbacking job from until his third season in 1971. But for the nine seasons he was in command of the potent Cowboys attack, the Dallas played in six NFC championship games, winning four of them, and also scored victories in Super Bowls VI and XII.

The 6-3, 200-pound Staubach wound up his career after the 1979 season with an 83.4 passing rating, the best mark by an NFL passer up to that time. His career chart shows 1,685 completions in 2,958 passing attempts, which were good for 22,700 yards and 153 touchdowns.

Making Staubach particularly dangerous was his ability to scramble out of trouble – his 410 career rushes netted him 2,264 yards for a 5.5-yard average and 20 touchdowns. He led the NFL in passing four times. He was also an All-NFC choice five times and selected to play in six Pro Bowls.

Staubach first starred as a quarterback at the U. S. Naval Academy, where he was a Heisman Trophy winner as a junior in 1963. Following his graduation, he spent a mandatory four years on active duty, including service in Vietnam, before he was able to turn his attention to pro football.

During his finest years with the Cowboys, Roger had the reputation for making the big play. He was the MVP of Super Bowl VI and provided the offensive spark in a defense dominated Super Bowl XII victory.

In 1972, he missed most of the season with a separated shoulder but he relieved Craig Morton in a divisional playoff against San Francisco and threw two touchdown passes in the last 90 seconds to defeat the 49ers, 30-28. With that performance, he won back his regular job and did not relinquish it again during his career.

[smazza]

fran t went to more superbowls than marino

here are other qbs better than marino

bradshaw

elway

montana

young

johnny u

stabler

len dawson

these are only modern era qbs

i can go on and on

[smazza]

aikman,one of the most accurate passers ever made his receivers great.

marino constantly berated his teammates on the field.marion had to always have the spotlight

qbs that put emphasis on winning make teammates better

[Joe]

I was thinking Stabler...sorry about that.

I still don't get where your getting the idea that Marino was aweful, it's not like he lost a lot, he just lost when it counted without a good RB or great WRs, Duper and Clayton were good, not great.

Bradshaw: Swann and Stallworth

Montana: Rice and Taylor

etc.

Not to mention Elway was in the same boat as Marino until he got an unbelievable RB in Terrell Davis.

[BULLigerent]

I guess next we're going to hear what a lousy running back Barry Sanders was?

[smazza]

elway was much better than marino

elway could beat you with arm or legs

[Apis Bull]

fran t went to more superbowls than marino

Again what did he win?  BTW, Jim Kelly went to more Superbowls also.

[Joe]

elway was much better than marino

elway could beat you with arm or legs

It's a shame it was Terrell Davis's legs that won him his 1st Super Bowl.

Super Bowl XXXII

Elway 12-22 123 Yards 0 TD 1 Int; Terrell Davis 157 Yards, 3 TDs