cygnus34 Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,103 Content Count: 1,741 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/2004 Share Posted January 14, 2006 This from the TERP. board, apparently this stuff happens after football season. Personally I do not believe one word but just thought you all might want to chip in.http://mb21.scout.com/fmaryland4...7371.topicI got this in an email that was forwarded to thousands probably. Kinda interesting and prob BS but.....Check out the scenario for the new Big East at the bottom though. I would not mind being done with all of the redneck schools personally.On a slow day yesterday due to the hurricane, I had a chance to speak with an influential FSU booster about the "new" ACC. He mentioned some very interesting things.1. To no one's surprise, all is not roses in ACC-land. The "raid" was completely botched. The plan was to have the BE teams leave en masse atthe deadline, thereby costing the BE their status as a viable conferenceand creating a vacuum for the ACC to fill. However, the Skip Prosser interview with Pitt allowed word to leak out and the BE exposed the planmuch earlier than the ACC had hoped.2. The lawsuit made the ACC look terrible and four schools wereparticularly upset with the way that the conference was portrayed (Duke,UNC, NC State and Wake Forest).3. Not only is the money not there that the schools were told to expect(which was predicated on the ACC completely replacing the BE -- seepoint one), several long-time ACC schools are upset that the BE teams have come in and dominated the conference (Maryland, UNC, NC State,Clemson, for example). This has led to some dissension.4. Two schools that he claims are not happy with the new arrangementhave intimated that they might withdraw from the conference in a couple of years, which would deprive the ACC of its championship game (and theonly reason that anything close to the promised money is evenavailable). He told me that one of those schools is Maryland, which isnot happy with being an also-ran. He wasn't sure about the other one, but he thought that it might be UVA, which is now the second best teamin the conference from Virginia.5. The next date of importance for all of us relates to the BCS. Hedoesn't expect that the NCAA will ever implement a football playoff, so the BCS will continue in some form or another. If the BE is able toweather the storm (interesting that many of the most negative articlesabout the BE have been written by writers who favor the ACC or have beenpublished in newspapers where the ACC has representation) and survive,there will be even more hard feelings within the ACC. He firmly believes(and is worried) that if the BE continues as a participant in the BCS system, Maryland will petition to become a member of the BE because ofits dissatisfaction and its proximity to the BE schools. This would givethe BE nine full members. Should that happen, he also anticipates that between one and three other ACC schools will try to leave as well. Hisprediction for the most likely: UVA. He also expects that BC will sendout feelers because, without Maryland, the closest school to BC would beVirginia Tech. If Maryland and UVA were to join the BE, don't besurprised if UPS expresses an interest, partly because of the inroadsinto PSU's recruiting territory that would be created by such an Eastern conference.6. There is also some concern in the ACC that Kentucky, which has notbeen happy in the SEC recently, will also petition the BE formembership, should the conference survive. If that were to occur, and should the Texas schools not move to the SEC as the SEC would like, VTis first on the list for expansion -- new markets and big-time footballreputation.He mentioned that clues as to whether he is right will be found in the list of schools that the BE talks with about membership. If thediscussions about Navy, ND, etc. fade away, it should tell you thatsomething bigger is in the offing.If this person is right, there are many reasons for the BE to win big and win now. Even if he's wrong, the risk of the BE losing its spot asan automatic qualifier in the BCS series has far-reaching consequences.That possibility is why, as much as I dislike WVU, Pitt needs to win itsnext two games and WVU needs to win out and enter the BCS bowl as a 10-1team. It will be the best result for the conference in the long run.BE East -- BC (PSU?), Syracuse, UCONN, Rutgers, Maryland, USF BE West -- WVU, Pitt, Louisville, Cincinnati, Kentucky, UVAIt's not all that unlikely ---------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Message Board fodder nothing more. Maryland has been with the ACC since day one and unless something big happens will stay there. Its the same teams/same rumors for the last 5 -6 yearsMaryland to BEArkansas to Big 12Colorado to Pac - 10GT to the SECFurther, if Maryland were to come to the BE, we would probably be dropped. Not something we need.Don't believe what you see on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1DDY Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 34 Content Count: 701 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2005 Share Posted January 14, 2006 wouldn't we have heard about these "lawsuits" this article makes it sounds like a big deal, but i think Joe is right, don't believe everything you read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprtsfn627 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Well, the lawsuits are in reference to the ones the Big East schools filed when the raid happened. (I think thats what they mean...) Anyways, they mentioned on another board that it costs about 10 million dollars to leave the ACC  .  So I doubt anyone is leaving the ACC anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting_BULL Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 111 Content Count: 2,527 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2002 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Further, if Maryland were to come to the BE, we would probably be dropped. Why would we be dropped? We need another team to have 8 conf games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullwark Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 483 Content Count: 2,923 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/12/2003 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Sounds like someone has too much time on their hands thinking of wacky way conference memberships can be augmented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,392 Reputation: 2,898 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted January 14, 2006 No, this is about the BE split. If the 8 football schools split from the BE then expect Maryland, Notre Dame, Penn St, and Kentucky to join the 8 BE football schools to form a new all sports 12 team conference. This is only if the 8 BE schools keep the BCS bid after the split. Kentucky is tired of not getting anywhere in SEC football, so they will join their rival UL. Maryland is tired of the south  ACC teams which only care about football. Penn St wants to be in a more Eastern conference. Notre Dame would join if Penn St and Maryland join the confernce because of the other sports. This wont happen until around 2010 though.  That is the rumor that I keep hearing anyway. Take it for what it is worth.PS I have heard a rumor that Boston College is not too happy about the ACC. The only reason Boston College left the BIG EAST is because they were afraid of the BIG EAST losing the BCS bid. Now that the BIG EAST looks very steady, the ACC is upset. The whole cause of the raid by the ACC was to destroy the BIG EAST which has not happened. Now, Boston College hates the match ups with the ACC schools because they dont have much in common. They are steaming about their bowl future because they dont fit in the ACC region. Things are getting interesting. Bad karma for the ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolBull1 Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 1,433 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/04/2004 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I can't see much in the logic presented that is completey out of reason. Come on over, Maryland. We'll make room for you. I don't believe a mass exodous would take place, but I could see one or two teams becoming disenchanted with the also ran status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 723 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Share Posted January 14, 2006 anything that starts out with "i got this in an email" is not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 15, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I swear some people on this board would believe we went after Belichick if someone wrote it. I can show you the trangression of this rumor, its been around before teh ACC raid of the BE. Just as the other schools in other conferences. UK is not leaving the SEC, MD is not leaving the ACC, and Penn State is not leaving the Big 10...Each make plenty of money in their respective conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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