In Game The TBP Official In Game Thread: Bulls at UAB Blazers

[olafberserker]

22 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

22 actually. it was a 4 pt road loss to a team that is 11-5 this year. some people need to put it in perspective.

Even better.  It's a message board.  People discuss things especially after losses.  Probably should put that into perspective as well.

[olafberserker]

They also shot 12 less 3's .... wonder if that figured into the increased number of FT attempts that directly led to the 4 point loss on the road to that 11 - 5 conference foe

[Chardizard]

Was actually somewhat pleased watching us lose to UAB...Andy Kennedy coached team with a good game plan...worked well against us and we still had a chance to win.   I hope coach will see the foul differential and make some slight adjustments to try to even that out. 

We might have a "not that bad" team this year.  Ill take that for a first year coach and what our basketball program has been.      

Edited January 8 by Chardizard

[Bull94]

3 hours ago, olafberserker said:

They also shot 12 less 3's .... wonder if that figured into the increased number of FT attempts that directly led to the 4 point loss on the road to that 11 - 5 conference foe

we scored 15 more points on 3's than them. over the 12 shots means it was 1.25 points per shot. that's like shooting 62.5% from inside the arc.

it's the only reason the game was even close.

considering they only scored 4 more points in the paint than us suggests we were just as aggressive

old timers keep suggesting we shoot less 3's and play more inside.

analytics suggests otherwise and I'm glad our coach is smart enough to realize this.

it's finally fun to watch our offense

Edited January 8 by Bull94

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, Chardizard said:

Was actually somewhat pleased watching us lose to UAB...Andy Kennedy coached team with a good game plan...worked well against us and we still had a chance to win.   I hope coach will see the foul differential and make some slight adjustments to try to even that out. 

We might have a "not that bad" team this year.  Ill take that for a first year coach and what our basketball program has been.      

Don't know how much UAB's team has changed but we lost to them by 15 at home last year ....

[olafberserker]

52 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

we scored 15 more points on 3's than them. over the 12 shots means it was 1.25 points per shot. that's like shooting 62.5% from inside the arc.

it's the only reason the game was even close.

considering they only scored 4 more points in the paint than us suggests we were just as aggressive

 

It's the 21 more points from the FT line on 22 more FT attempts that's being discussed

[Bull94]

30 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

It's the 21 more points from the FT line on 22 more FT attempts that's being discussed

oh I thought you were the one that brought up the fact that we shot 12 more 3's than them and maybe that was the reason....

those 12 3's and the 15 points that came with them give you 1.25 pps.

nobody in the country has an offensive efficiency number that high.

unfortunately we didn't get the calls and they went to the line 20+ more times. it happens.

doesn't mean we should abandon shooting 3's. it still gives you the best chance to win.

oh and we will have games where we shoot 3's poorly and will get blown out. still doesn't mean we should change

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Edited January 8 by Bull94

[olafberserker]

2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

oh I thought you were the one that brought up the fact that we shot 12 more 3's than them and maybe that was the reason....

the other stats you brought up are irrelevant to that "wondering"

[olafberserker]

19 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said:

Our fouls were legit, but the issue was it wasn’t called the same on both ends. Refs showed very early that they weren’t going to let us play a physical game. And UAB had the right game plan - take it inside and don’t settle for jump shots.

I can’t remember a game when the opponent was in the double bonus earlier than today.

So essentially, not being able to adjust to the flow of the game hurt us in this case.   Interesting

[Bull94]

22 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

the other stats you brought up are irrelevant to that "wondering"

actually they are not. we scored 15 more points on 3's than them.

it's the reason the game was that close and yet you and others think it's the reason why we lost.

if we had just shot average on the 19 free throws we took we would have won. even shooting 22 less free throws than them.

Edited January 8 by Bull94