John Lewis Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 2,914 Reputation: 2,345 Days Won: 33 Joined: 09/25/2013 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Sheriff said: I can't remember any game where Flowers had the ball in his hands for the last series of the game (with more than 30 seconds on the clock) where he didn't lead us down the field to a W in his last two years at USF. Hence, the Wilcox fumble in my opinion cost Q an opportunity to continue his magic on the field. Ball control is everything - it's preached everyday in practice - especially on game winning/last minute drives. That fumble was brutal - and his to own forever. We were ahead in the game in the 4th quarter and stopped UCF near midfield on downs. We did nothing with our opportunity there. That's when the game changed. Also, you can argue that spotting UCF 21 points early before making any defensive changes also cost us the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,446 Reputation: 2,917 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just were not really well coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulloni Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 67 Content Count: 2,409 Reputation: 1,395 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/01/2015 Share Posted December 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, John Lewis said: We were ahead in the game in the 4th quarter and stopped UCF near midfield on downs. We did nothing with our opportunity there. That's when the game changed. Also, you can argue that spotting UCF 21 points early before making any defensive changes also cost us the game. Yup a lot of things I'd point at before Mitch Wilcox's fumble. From the end of the 1st quarter to midway through the 4th quarter they went on a stretch where they scored a total of 7 points over 9 drives!!! If we had someone besides Sterlin Gilbert that could have kept our offense rolling like in 2016 we would have ran away with it there. Also penalties/special teams killed us at some key points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I'm with the Sheriff on this one, I don't continue to hold a grudge, but when I see him playing, I automatically think about that fumble. In every game, there are moments one can point to that was huge one way or another, but Q was the most clutch player I have ever witnessed. The kid could go 5-20 in the first 3 quarters and then flip a switch in the 4th and make crazy plays to lead his team to a win. In my soul, I will always believe that he would have scored a TD on that drive if Wilcox didn't fumble that ball... is that the reason we lost? Maybe not, there are possibly other reasons, but I would argue that he took away the chance for Q to take it and go WIN. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,097 Reputation: 4,614 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, smazza said: brady better make up with giselle he may be out of football Nah they were already doomed when she wanted him to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,446 Reputation: 2,917 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rocky Style said: Nah they were already doomed when she wanted him to retire. Bucs need to fix their OL & then go after Mike White… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,097 Reputation: 4,614 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Bull Awakening said: Bucs need to fix their OL & then go after Mike White… Wasn't Mike White getting murdered in the pocket again a la USF? I didn't watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 19, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,446 Reputation: 2,917 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Rocky Style said: Wasn't Mike White getting murdered in the pocket again a la USF? I didn't watch. Yes lol. Which is why the Bucs better fix their blocking issues before they bring in MW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted December 19, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,751 Content Count: 37,666 Reputation: 2,362 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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