Rocky Style Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,144 Reputation: 4,649 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted September 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, BullShirt said: It would only be rabble rousing (or trolling - I'm looking at you Rocky Style) if you looked at it myopically and PRESUMED that anything and everything is limited to happening right now, in 2022 which personally I don't think it is. I phrased the question exactly the way I did to see who is limited in their thinking to the seasons that are right in front of them and who might stretch their thinking out to 2023 or 2024 (and no one did). A lot of people on this forum get very uncomfortable when someone disagrees with them. With ALMOST 100% certainty I would say that if both coaches make it to the 2023 season and then one of them gets fired neither you nor Rocky Style (or others) would resurrect this thread and say "hey, you know what, you were right. I see where you were going with this and now it makes sense". But I knew that going in. I wouldn't resurrect the thread because I can't even remember what happened yesterday, but I would definitely say you were right. I just want the team turn around at this critical time. I don't think we can afford another firing and rebuild, so I don't want to dwell on it. I am not against trolling though. That's part of the internet. Everyone gets to get worked up and argue about things. It's part of the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,144 Reputation: 4,649 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted September 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, BullShirt said: I get the IPF, I really do, but I truly wonder if we're not losing something in the long run. Games are played in the HEAT. Games are played in the RAIN. Games are played in the MUD. If you don't practice in those conditions I wonder how prepared for them a team can truly be. I just don't know. I agree, but everyone says this is a big recruiting factor. I guess we have to believe this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted September 12, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,724 Reputation: 5,862 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted September 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, BullShirt said: Pretty important to who? What 3 or 4 star recruit can you attribute that comment to? You mean to tell me that a bunch of highly touted recruits have been wanting to play here but decided against it because we don't have an IPF? Once USF has an IPF and an OCS what makes them different and more attractive than someone else? I'll say this, when I played we HATED coming south later in the season when when it was hot. We couldn't simulate that environment during practice. And I know for a fact that other players HATED going north in the winter if they played down south. They hated the cold. I get to go to 2 or 3 bowl games a year and sometimes I get to go down on the side line. I'm telling you, in December / January teams from up north really struggle with the heat. I get the IPF, I really do, but I truly wonder if we're not losing something in the long run. Games are played in the HEAT. Games are played in the RAIN. Games are played in the MUD. If you don't practice in those conditions I wonder how prepared for them a team can truly be. I just don't know. Can't practice outdoors in lightning however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted September 12, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CousinRicky said: Can't practice outdoors in lightning however. This. And didn't we cover the weather as being a non-factor in the outcome of games? I guess that was just the humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Basketball team has been practicing indoors for years and they still suck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullShirt Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 103 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/15/2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Rocky Style said: I wouldn't resurrect the thread because I can't even remember what happened yesterday, but I would definitely say you were right. I just want the team turn around at this critical time. I don't think we can afford another firing and rebuild, so I don't want to dwell on it. I am not against trolling though. That's part of the internet. Everyone gets to get worked up and argue about things. It's part of the fun. "I wouldn't resurrect the thread because I can't even remember what happened yesterday" Man, I'm right there with you on that. But I have to watch out for CTE and memory issues because of my playing days. I get tested periodically. So far so good. My wife definitely does not like it when I forget to do something and say "It must be the CTE setting in" especially if it's something she wants me to do and she knows it's something I really don't want to. But it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullShirt Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 103 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/15/2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: Can't practice outdoors in lightning however. Very true. You can't practice outdoors in lightning today. I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,144 Reputation: 4,649 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, BullShirt said: My wife definitely does not like it when I forget to do something and say "It must be the CTE setting in" especially if it's something she wants me to do and she knows it's something I really don't want to. But it's all good. Haha this is sadly the experience of all of us. But it is funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullShirt Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 103 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/15/2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Sk00b said: This. And didn't we cover the weather as being a non-factor in the outcome of games? I guess that was just the humidity. Trust me, weather can be a big factor for the players on the field. Besides, look how many fans go down when it's 90 plus and they are not doing anything, well they are drinking so there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullShirt Posted September 12, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 103 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/15/2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, WWMJD said: Basketball team has been practicing indoors for years and they still suck Nice! Maybe CBG should take em outside when they lose. Coach Knight was downright maniacal if he felt his players lost a game because they didn't give 100% or made stupid mistakes. I didn't go there but I know someone that played for him. BUT , his players almost all universally LOVE him. He really did care for them even after they graduated (or didn't graduate Isaiah Thomas). Stories are legendary about things he did behind the scenes to help former players, their families, etc. FWIW IT did eventually get his degree. He said he got tired of Coach riding his you know what about it. And Coach always played the trump card, BUT YOU PROMISED YOUR MOTHER YOU WOULD GET YOUR DEGREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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