Kizarvexis Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 164 Content Count: 1,386 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2001 Share Posted November 20, 2005 ...depending on whether Pitt can defeat W. Viriginia on Thanksgiving. (If Pitt beats WVa and USF beats UConn, then the USF/WVa game would be for the title, rather than co-champions.)Ov       Conf8-1 WVa   5-0   Pitt6-3 USF   4-1   @UConn & WVA5-5 Pitt    4-2   @WVa7-2 Lou    3-2   Syr & @UConn6-4 Rut    3-3   Cin4-5 UConn 1-4   USF & LouKizarvexis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted November 20, 2005 That is true, but i'd rather have the cochampion scenario...If Pitt beats WVU, and we beat WVU, Pitt could potentially still get the BCS bid at 6-5 because of the tie breaker... and that would just suck.  If neither USF or Pitt are ranked (which neither would be if we lost to UCONN), then the tiebreaker would go to Pitt since they beat us head to head.  WVU would be left out because of the fact that they lost to both of us, regardless of if they are ranked since the first thing that is looked at is record of the "mini-conference"USF would be 2-1, Pitt would be 2-1, WVU would be 1-2.Ideally, the best scenario for us is WVU winning against Pitt and then us winning out. That would get us ranked, and that would get us the BCS bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 723 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Share Posted November 20, 2005 i dont care about all these stupid polls...win out and i spend the week after Christmas in some other city besides Tampa.rooting for my Bulls.thats all i care about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizarvexis Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 164 Content Count: 1,386 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2005 That is true, but i'd rather have the cochampion scenario...If Pitt beats WVU, and we beat WVU, Pitt could potentially still get the BCS bid at 6-5 because of the tie breaker... and that would just suck.  If neither USF or Pitt are ranked (which neither would be if we lost to UCONN), then the tiebreaker would go to Pitt since they beat us head to head.  WVU would be left out because of the fact that they lost to both of us, regardless of if they are ranked since the first thing that is looked at is record of the "mini-conference"USF would be 2-1, Pitt would be 2-1, WVU would be 1-2.Ideally, the best scenario for us is WVU winning against Pitt and then us winning out.  That would get us ranked, and that would get us the BCS bid.Nope.If Pitt beats WVa and USF beats UConn and WVA, then USF is the BE champ.In the scenario above...USF would be 6-1 in confPitt would be 5-2 in conf overWVA who would also be 5-2 in conf and would have lost to Pitt.Your scenario only works if Pitt beats WVa and USF loses to UConn and beats WVa. (Lou could be added as well if they beat Syr and UConn as they are 3-2 now.)Kizarvexis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FazaUSF Posted November 20, 2005 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 94 Content Count: 2,305 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 11 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 What does any of this matter?Pitt won't beat WVU. We just need to keep our heads in the ground and make sure UConn doesn't feed us an upset. I repeat. Scenarios in which Pitt beats WVU are pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizarvexis Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 164 Content Count: 1,386 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2005 What does any of this matter?Pitt won't beat WVU. We just need to keep our heads in the ground and make sure UConn doesn't feed us an upset. I repeat. Scenarios in which Pitt beats WVU are pointless.Who thought unranked Ga Tech would beat #3 Miami in Miami?Granted Pitt beating WVa is not likely, but with Pitt at 5-5, they either win on Thanksgiving or stay home.Kizarvexis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulls96go Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 724 Content Count: 10,219 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted November 20, 2005 just win...it does not matter what anyone else does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFootball Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 566 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/07/2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 just win...it does not matter what anyone else does!AGREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hightechbull Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 232 Content Count: 2,511 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 20, 2005 That is true, but i'd rather have the cochampion scenario...If Pitt beats WVU, and we beat WVU, Pitt could potentially still get the BCS bid at 6-5 because of the tie breaker... and that would just suck. If neither USF or Pitt are ranked (which neither would be if we lost to UCONN), then the tiebreaker would go to Pitt since they beat us head to head. WVU would be left out because of the fact that they lost to both of us, regardless of if they are ranked since the first thing that is looked at is record of the "mini-conference"USF would be 2-1, Pitt would be 2-1, WVU would be 1-2.Ideally, the best scenario for us is WVU winning against Pitt and then us winning out. That would get us ranked, and that would get us the BCS bid.Huh? Can you share the dope your are smoking, 'cause I just don't see it.If USF wins out and Pitt beats WVU, then USF would be 6-1 in the BIG EAST and Pitt and WVU would be 5-2 in the BIG EAST. We would win the BIG EAST because we would have the best conference record.As the song says - "Pass the duchie on the left hand side" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted November 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Nope.If Pitt beats WVa and USF beats UConn and WVA, then USF is the BE champ.In the scenario above...USF would be 6-1 in confPitt would be 5-2 in conf overWVA who would also be 5-2 in conf and would have lost to Pitt.Your scenario only works if Pitt beats WVa and USF loses to UConn and beats WVa. (Lou could be added as well if they beat Syr and UConn as they are 3-2 now.)KizarvexisKiz... reread my post... i said "That is true, but if we lost to UConn.. and then we had a 3 way tie... we wouldn't go unless we were ranked in the top 25, which wouldn't happen with a loss to UConn.If we win out... pitt can't win the BCS... if we lose to UConn... that opens the door for Pitt and our game vs WVU would be irrelevent to us.2 way tie... us and WVU... we go3 way tie... us, Pitt, WVU... Pitt goes.4 way tie... us (2-1), Pitt (2-1), WVU (1-2), Lville (1-2)... Pitt goes... again, unless we end up ranked which wouldn't happen with a loss to UConn.Hightech, I went back and Bolded the main points in my post... so i guess i'm not smoking crack after all... you guys just jumped the gun a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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