Kizarvexis

I did say 'if' and that it would be a 'great achievement'. I don't know enough about the other teams this season to say what I expect USF to do, but 6-6 is looking like the best I could see them doing if everything went USF's way.

The last loss to a non-BCS team was Memphis in 2004. (ended at 16 wins in a row) The last loss to a MAC team was at N. Illinois in 2001 the week before the Pitt win. (ended at 4 wins in a row, out of 6 total MAC games) Skip's teams have been trending down since he arrived. 2010 USF 8-5 and 3-4 Big East 2011 USF 5-7 and 1-6 Big East so far 2012 USF 2-2 and 0-1 Big East total USF 15-14 and 4-11 Big East Things aren't looking good for the FSU game. At Louisville, Syracuse, UCONN, @Miami, @Cinci and Pitt could be problematic as well. Who knows what @Temple will be like as we have never played them before. Based on what I have seen so far, if USF goes 4-4 the rest of the way, it would be a great achievement.

I certainly hope so.

Here are the three all-time losing streaks for USF that are on the line Thursday. 4 I-A home losses in a row. The last win was vs UTEP (52-24) on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 5 Big East home losses in a row. The last win was vs Rutgers (28-27) on Wed, Nov 3rd, 2010 6 BCS home losses in a row. The last win was vs Rutgers (28-27) on Wed, Nov 3rd, 2010 We are 2-5 vs Rutgers (1-2 at home and 1-3 on the road) with the last win vs Rutgers being the one above in 2010. We are 21-27 vs the Big East and it is time to start turning that around.

Look under Bianchi's article in the sentinel from earlier this week or last...he links everything there. Look I don't want into the Big East, now. It's not going to exist, anymore. It's the principle of everything. My question is...why does any of this surprise you? You knew Genshaft's agenda vs. UCF since USF began football. Other school presidents are aware and her tactics may cause USF a conference. Why did Pitt and Cuse want out so bad? The went to the ACC, not the other way around. The ACC just figured, we better be sure. The Big 12 presidents are football minded and are fighting to stick together for the benefit of all of the schools. Do you think they want to deal with Genshaft?? They know how she works and how selfish she is. At least they're going to now....thanks to UCF!!! hahahaha!!! I'm not going to Bianchi's site, Goldie ... Please supply the link. Good luck on that part.

I think its 5 or 6 games if you look at least season. It is 5 games. UCiF's last TD pass was Jeff Godfrey to Latavius Murray for a 5 yd TD pass in the final SMU game last season (Dec 4th, UCiF 17, SMU 7).

Yeah. And clubbing the baby seals can be fun. ;D

USF started FB in 1996 as a I-AA independent. (I don't do FBS and FCS, they are I-A and I-AA as God intended .) USF became a I-A independent in 2001. USF moved to C-USA in 2003 and the BE in 2005. So that is four years as a I-A team, before moving to a BCS conference. UCF started FB in 1979 as a D-III team. In 1982 they went to D-II. In 1990, UCF went to I-AA. In 1996, UCF became a I-A independent. In 2005, UCF joined C-USA. So, if you want to compare USF's first four years, with UCF's first four years, then you are comparing USF 2001-2004 vs UCF 1996-1999. This info on USF and UCF is not hard to find. USF media guide - http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7700&KEY=&ATCLID=204909597&SPID=2981&SPSID=96971 UCF media guide - http://ucfathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/2010-media-guide.html For FB records check out http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/ UCF BCS games 0-14 1996 Lost at 6-5 S. Carolina Lost at 9-3 Ga Tech 1997 Lost at 8-3 Ole Miss Lost at 5-6 S. Carolina Lost at 12-0 Nebraska Lost at 9-3 Auburn Lost at 7-4 Miss St 1998 Lost at 8-4 Purdue Lost at 3-8 Auburn 1999 Lost vs 7-4 Purdue Lost at 9-3 Florida Lost at 8-3 Ga Tech Lost at 7-4 Georgia Lost at 5-6 Auburn USF BCS games 1-5 2001 Won at 6-5 Pitt 2002 Lost at 9-3 Arkansas Lost at 10-2 Oklahoma 2003 Lost at 4-9 Alabama 2004 Lost at 6-5 S. Carolina Lost vs 8-3 Pitt If you want to extend this out to games over I-A opponents with a winning record, it gets worse for UCF. From 1996-1999 UCF beat Toledo twice when Toledo had a winning record. From 2001-2004 USF beat 8 teams with winning records, which includes the above Pitt win and a win vs #25 (ESPN) Bowling Green. Currently, UCF is 3-45 all time vs BCS teams with none of them being against a BCS team with a winning record. USF is 29-36 vs BCS teams all time and includes wins against ranked BCS teams with winning records. Since both teams went to I-A, USF has 22 wins over I-A teams with a winning record (at least one every year for 10 years) and UCF has 11 wins over I-A teams with a winning record (spread across 7 seasons in the 15 years UCF has been I-A). BTW, the BCS stats do not include the 2 games each vs Louisville, Cincy and UConn before they also became BCS teams.

You do realize that this thread was started in January of 2008 and has had many other UCF threads merged into it to keep the board clean?

You do know that WKU completed the move to I-A in 2009 and played as a part of the Sun Belt Conf, right?

Excellent plan.

Because they are EVIL.

My EYES! I have to scoop out my EYES to stop the pain.

: Isn't that what Gnats fans said when UCiF hired O'Leary O'Liar? How's that working out? ;D Kizarvexis

If you'll notice, 'significant wins' were wins over I-A programs with a winning record. Alabama was 3-8 in 2000. They are included in the wins over BCS record that UCiF compiled. Kizarvexis

You so don't want to go there. Here are the comparisons of USF and UCiF from the start of I-A play to the end of 2004. In 2004, USF was in the 2nd season of C-USA play and UCiF was in the 3rd season of MAC play. UCiF compiled a 46-55 (45.54%) overall record from 1996 to 2004. Their record vs I-A teams was 32-55 (36.78%) and were 4 of 37 (9.76%) vs I-A teams with a winning record. UCiF was 1 and 29 vs the BCS (3.33%). UCiF's significant wins were the following: 1997 - 9-3 Toledo (not ranked when they played UCiF and they lost the MAC Champ game) 1998 - 7-5 @Toledo (lost MAC Champ game) 2001 - 6-5 UAB 2002 - 7-5 Miami (OH) USF compiled a 28-16 (63.64%) overall record from 2001 to 2004. Their record vs I-A teams was 20-16 (55.56%) and were 8 of 13 (38.10%) vs I-A teams with a winning record. USF was 1 and 5 vs the BCS (16.67%). USF's significant wins were the following: 2001 - 7-5 @Pitt (Won the Tangerine Bowl) 2002 - 8-4 N. Illinois 2002 - 7-5 @N. Texas (SBC Champ and won the NO Bowl) 2002 - 7-5 So Miss (Lost the Houston Bowl) 2002 - 9-3 #26/25 Bowling Green (AP/Coaches Polls) 2003 - 9-3 Louisville (Lost the GMAC Bowl) 2003 - 8-4 @Memphis (Won the NO Bowl) 2004 - 7-4 UAB (Lost the Hawai'i Bowl) So, better winning percentages in all facets of the game. In 2002 USF won the same number of games vs I-A opponents with a winning record as UCiF did in 9 years of trying! USF even beat a I-A opponent with a winning record in their worst season, 2004! Not to mention that USF's BCS win was over a bowl winner. Kizarvexis

Yes, the game was moved and it did go to two OT's. It was a USF win, 24-17, and the first homecoming game to go into OT. This year's game will be the first time that USF will have a repeat opponent for Homecoming.

After the end of the season. :'( 1. Oakland Raiders 2. Detroit Lions c3. Cleveland Browns c4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5. Arizona Cardinals 6. Washington Redskins 7. Minnesota Vikings 8. San Francisco 49ers 9. Houston Texans 10. Miami Dolphins 11. Atlanta Falcons 12. Buffalo Bills 13. St. Louis Rams 14. Carolina Panthers 15. Pittsburgh Steelers 16. Green Bay Packers 17. Jacksonville Jaguars 18. Cincinnati Bengals 19. Tennessee Titans 20. Denver Broncos 21. New York Giants 22. Dallas Cowboys 23. Kansas City Chiefs 24. New York Jets 25. Seattle Seahawks 26. Philadelphia Eagles 27. Baltimore Ravens 28. San Diego Chargers 29. New Orleans Saints 30. New England Patriots 31. Chicago Bears 32. Indianapolis Colts The Bucs and Browns will have a coin toss to determine who picks 3rd and who picks 4th. Trades are not included. Kizarvexis

After the third round of the playoffs. 1. Oakland Raiders 2. Detroit Lions c3. Cleveland Browns c4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5. Arizona Cardinals 6. Washington Redskins 7. Minnesota Vikings 8. San Francisco 49ers 9. Houston Texans 10. Miami Dolphins 11. Atlanta Falcons 12. Buffalo Bills 13. St. Louis Rams 14. Carolina Panthers 15. Pittsburgh Steelers 16. Green Bay Packers 17. Jacksonville Jaguars 18. Cincinnati Bengals 19. Tennessee Titans 20. Denver Broncos 21. New York Giants 22. Dallas Cowboys 23. Kansas City Chiefs 24. New York Jets 25. Seattle Seahawks 26. Philadelphia Eagles 27. Baltimore Ravens 28. San Diego Chargers 29. New Orleans Saints 30. New England Patriots 31. Indianapolis Colts 33. Chicago Bears The Colts and Bears order will be determined by who wins Super Bowl XLI. The Bucs and Browns will have a coin toss to determine who picks 3rd and who picks 4th. Trades are not included. It will be the Colts vs the Bears; Tony Dungy vs Lovie Smith. Kizarvexis

NO, not in football, but in WBB! USF knocked off #15 Louisville 74-58 for the second highest ranked win. USF is #33 in the AP with 12 points and #30 in the USA Today with 17 votes. The next poll is week 12 (22nd-28th). There are 5 four loss teams in the Top 25 with Georgia at #16. So BB Gurus, can the Lady Bulls make the Top 25? Kizarvexis

when is first one coming?? Dang you are impatient. Give the man some time to build something. Even more so in the fact that we need to build a lot of athletic facilities. Kizarvexis

After the second round of the playoffs. 1. Oakland Raiders 2. Detroit Lions c3. Cleveland Browns c4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5. Arizona Cardinals 6. Washington Redskins 7. Minnesota Vikings 8. San Francisco 49ers 9. Houston Texans 10. Miami Dolphins 11. Atlanta Falcons 12. Buffalo Bills 13. St. Louis Rams 14. Carolina Panthers 15. Pittsburgh Steelers 16. Green Bay Packers 17. Jacksonville Jaguars 18. Cincinnati Bengals 19. Tennessee Titans 20. Denver Broncos 21. New York Giants 22. Dallas Cowboys 23. Kansas City Chiefs 24. New York Jets 25. Seattle Seahawks 26. Philadelphia Eagles 27. Baltimore Ravens 28. San Diego Chargers 29. New Orleans Saints 30. New England Patriots 31. Indianapolis Colts 33. Chicago Bears Teams 29-32 are subject to the rest of the playoffs. When they exit the playoffs and who they exit with will determine the draft order for 29-32. The Bucs and Browns will have a coin toss to determine who picks 3rd and who picks 4th. Trades are not included. Kizarvexis

K-L, are you going to respond? Kizarvexis

K-L, since we are talking reading comprehension, having you found that information on the USF-WVU game actual attendance to back up your statements? Kizarvexis

17 votes is the third most votes USF has received from the AP. The #29 AP ranking is tied for the highest USF has ever received from the AP. USF was #29 at the end of 2002 and at the end of the regular season in 2006. Louisville is #6/7*, WVU is #10 and Rutgers is #12. Kizarvexis * (ap/coaches poll)