Outlaw Posted August 23, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, BullyPulpit said: Not a chance, but nice try. This all goes back to firing Leavitt and every poor decision that followed. Also, the school gobbling up all donations to gain AAU status. I agree with neglecting athletics to advance academics by Judy was terrible for the program. Firing Jim was the worst move for USf Football because he was USF Football and still is the face of it. I am just saying we could have won several games with decent coaching last year. If we had a average coach there were easily 3 wins on the table to take and probably more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I tell ya, we don’t get no respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Brad said: I tell ya, we don’t get no respect. We shouldn’t until we actually start winning on the field. I would rather USF be invited due to the winning than just because of all our other advantages. Can you imagine the backlash USF & ACC would be getting right now if we were being invited? This gives USF time to build their resume. ACC is now going to be stronger & more stable so USF should be ready by the time FSU leaves. Or if ACC raids big 12 for Kansas, TCU & Baylor. That would open the door for them to expand east to help out their island teams WVU/Cincy & UCF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF_rustbucket Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 416 Reputation: 203 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/25/2017 Share Posted August 23, 2023 My honest take on what this does for your chances, it's not as bad as you think. It means you won't get into the ACC during this round but that honestly didn't seem like an option. They're trying to keep pace with the Big 12 so I'm surprised SMU is even in the mix. But the reason I see this as a positive for y'all is that it protects the ACC for next round. It's not gonna stop the top of the ACC from leaving, but it keeps the remaining core stronger. If you're left too weak after a raid, the vultures come down on you. In the ACC's case that would mean the Pitt and Louisville type teams leaving for the Big 12 instead of staying and trying to build back up. I don't think the ACC will be able to raid from the Big 12, but this will stop it from getting raided by them too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I agree with neglecting athletics to advance academics by Judy was terrible for the program. Firing Jim was the worst move for USf Football because he was USF Football and still is the face of it. I am just saying we could have won several games with decent coaching last year. If we had a average coach there were easily 3 wins on the table to take and probably more. Academics AAU status will probably be the reason USF stays above FAU for ACC candidacy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, UCF_rustbucket said: My honest take on what this does for your chances, it's not as bad as you think. It means you won't get into the ACC during this round but that honestly didn't seem like an option. They're trying to keep pace with the Big 12 so I'm surprised SMU is even in the mix. But the reason I see this as a positive for y'all is that it protects the ACC for next round. It's not gonna stop the top of the ACC from leaving, but it keeps the remaining core stronger. If you're left too weak after a raid, the vultures come down on you. In the ACC's case that would mean the Pitt and Louisville type teams leaving for the Big 12 instead of staying and trying to build back up. I don't think the ACC will be able to raid from the Big 12, but this will stop it from getting raided by them too. Well said. Either USF eventually ends up in ACC or big 12 depending on if or who loses teams. Gives USF a chance to win on the field instead of being invited as a loser so I see it as a win win for all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted August 23, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Interesting note ... Tampa Bay, the #13 overall media market, is the number 6 TV market when looking at households that "like" college football. (This should answer the "Why would [conference] invite USF?" question) SOURCE: How The Television Map Influences Realignment SICEM365.COM Television markets impact conference realignment a lot. Inside we analyze a few key scenarios and also have an interactive map for you to explore! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Let’s say that PAC deai goes through. That would of sucked for a lot of USF’s sports programs. Not even sure PAC had womens LAX. We know ACC has it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF_rustbucket Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 416 Reputation: 203 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/25/2017 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bull Matrix said: Well said. Either USF eventually ends up in ACC or big 12 depending on if or who loses teams. Gives USF a chance to win on the field instead of being invited as a loser so I see it as a win win for all Exactly. You want both of them to stay in tact so one is guaranteed to send an invite. Because if one is too weak, the other will want to solidify themselves as #3 and cannibalize the other. So the leftovers of #4 would want to backfill but the resulting conference would be AAC+ at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted August 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,374 Reputation: 945 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: Interesting note ... Tampa Bay, the #13 overall media market, is the number 6 TV market when looking at households that "like" college football. (This should answer the "Why would [conference] invite USF?" question) SOURCE: How The Television Map Influences Realignment SICEM365.COM Television markets impact conference realignment a lot. Inside we analyze a few key scenarios and also have an interactive map for you to explore! TB likes the SEC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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