Perry Suspended / FIRE ANTIGUA!!

[Vega]

If the injured is healthy and everybody is eligible, USF will have a good exciting team next season. COA is taking his lumps right now but that will change next season.

[TarHeel_Bull]

1 hour ago, cambodia36 said:

This guy was basically a bag man for Calipari, and he's trying to turn USF into the Dominican Junior National team. Only thing is... there's generally plenty of good basketball players from the United States that would like to play college ball.

Pascal did this a couple decades ago after he fell backwards into 1 good Euro in Dobras.. started taking anyone with a hard to spell last name and the team was terrible. So is this one. I think USF should have realized at basketball it wasn't getting any better than what Heath was bringing, an occasional good team mixed in with 3-4 mediocre ones... Antigua isn't bribing recruiting another Karl Towns here, and that was pretty much his worth at UK.

But I'm sure the "you gotta give him time, we gave Willie a 3rd year and now he's a young Nick Saban!" crowd will win out here.

I'd like the whole "recruit everyone from the Dominican" strategy more for the baseball team.

First of all, you were, and still are, basically begging Taggart to be fired even with his success this past year, so idk what a coach can do to please you. Second off, most of the team isn't even Dominican. Cousins, Baxter, Fitts, McMurray, Holston, Peters, Bodway, Perry, Nunez, and Bo Ziegler are all from the United States. Guerrero is from Spain and Tulio da Silva is from Brazil. The only players that we have from the Doninican are Morillo, Andres Feliz, and Santos. So you saying that he is basically refruiting solely from the Doninican is completely false, even if it seems that way. He is bringing a positive attitude and bringing the right student first attitude to this team, just like Taggart, which takes time to build but pays off in the long run as long as he keeps it up.

[JoshuaG]

Gosh, maybe he should have begged players to stay and play here that had no inclination to after their head coach left. Whatever happened to, "If you don't want to play for this team, there is the door,"? Keeping malcontents on the squad sure would have boosted moral, done a lot for the culture of the franchise, and the integrity of the staff. Maybe we should have paid escorts to "convince" them to stay like some schools. Or gotten caught up in some scandal trying to fudge eligibility or grades. Certainly worth a shot right?

[USFbulls24]

3 hours ago, DataBull said:

Make up your mind.  Either they did not want to play for COA, or he encouraged them to play elsewhere.  Which is it?

My mind is made up and the only thing I know is it's not Antigua's fault that half the team transferred.

Could some of the players have met with Antigua when he was hired and absolutely hated him and wanted out from that point forward which seems to be what you're saying was the case for every single player that left? Sure. I think it's much more likely they wanted to control who they played for and once the coach they signed to play for over the course of their collegiate career got fired, they likely wanted to explore their other options. So they did and left. It's also very possible some wanted out after the season no matter who was the coach that next season. No one really knows other than the players who made the decision to leave, but to blame Antigua for the transfers is just wildly unreasonable. 

We're not going to agree on this so let's just leave it.

[Who'sYourData?]

1 minute ago, USFbulls24 said:

My mind is made up and the only thing I know is it's not Antigua's fault that half the team transferred.

Could some of the players have met with Antigua when he was hired and absolutely hated him and wanted out from that point forward which seems to be what you're saying was the case for every single player that left? Sure. I think it's much more likely they wanted to control who they played for and once the coach they signed to play for over the course of their collegiate career got fired, they likely wanted to explore their other options. So they did and left. It's also very possible some wanted out after the season no matter who was the coach that next season. No one really knows other than the players who made the decision to leave, but to blame Antigua for the transfers is just wildly unreasonable. 

We're not going to agree on this so let's just leave it.

So they transferred and had to sit out a year because that seemed like a better idea than staying and playing for Antigua.  We agree.

[JTrue]

I'd say it's about the same as when a football coach is fired and commits jump ship. You can blame it on the new guy and his inability to resecure the guys who already committed if you want, but i don't see it that way. COA was an unproven commodity and was trying to tell kids what his system and style was going to be, but there's no proof. I don't blame a kid for deciding an established coach was a better gamble. I'd be willing to bet most of them made up their mind before COA was even hired that they were gone, put out feelers, etc. and it would have taken a miracle to get them to back track on the choice. You're dreaming if you think most kids pick a school and not a coach to play for. If my coach was fired in college, I'd have a hard time deciding if I wanted to stick around for the new guy or go to a school that I had already looked at during my initial recruiting and might even had established a decent relationship with.

[cambodia36]

I don't know if he should be fired after this season,but it looks grim. This does not look like a very talented team. Pretty much the only way to coax a winning season from that sort of talent would be if he were some mastermind at hoops, which he is not. That's not to say he's terrible at coaching, but in basketball maybe more so than football, a lack of talent, especially in a fairly good conference, can be a death knell. 

Instead of going after a guy from a big program, perhaps USF needs to get a coach from a mid major school, because, sorry to say, that's essentially what this job is. 

I never wanted Heath to leave, because frankly I can't see any coach USF is capable of getting being able to do better than what Stan did. Based on the talent I see for USF, I think best case, when these guys are all seniors, they could go about .400 in conference and maybe get enough 67-62 wins over St. Leo to get near .500 overall

[Triple B]

31 minutes ago, cambodia36 said:

I don't know if he should be fired after this season,but it looks grim. This does not look like a very talented team. Pretty much the only way to coax a winning season from that sort of talent would be if he were some mastermind at hoops, which he is not. That's not to say he's terrible at coaching, but in basketball maybe more so than football, a lack of talent, especially in a fairly good conference, can be a death knell. 

Instead of going after a guy from a big program, perhaps USF needs to get a coach from a mid major school, because, sorry to say, that's essentially what this job is. 

I never wanted Heath to leave, because frankly I can't see any coach USF is capable of getting being able to do better than what Stan did. Based on the talent I see for USF, I think best case, when these guys are all seniors, they could go about .400 in conference and maybe get enough 67-62 wins over St. Leo to get near .500 overall

Which "guys" are you talking about there? 3 of the 6 schollie players on the floor Saturday are senors THIS year. We've really seen little of the talent that's going to be the bulk of the team for the next 2 or 3 years.

[Triple B]

10 minutes ago, Ned A Starr said:

I take it you enjoy slow boring basketball, or did you not attend his games at the Sun Dome?

 

Maybe he enjoyed the 20 win seasons and NCAA tourney wins ...

[Triple B]

50 minutes ago, Ned A Starr said:

Maybe yo should let him answer for himself, Mr Kia.

BTW, was that you at the UCF game today decked out in a Rocky hat, Bucs jersey, and Bolts hockey shorts

Maybe you should understand that as a member of a message board, you have the God given right to address any question put out there no matter who it's aimed at ... or how stupid the question is.

Yes.