deathrow95 Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 115 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/2003 Share Posted June 18, 2010 With all of this talk about about possible Big East expansion now is the time to look at the possible candidates age, size and markets. I also threw in endowment which is usually an indicator of how well established a school is. Institution TV Market Total Enrollment Endowment Location FoundedUniversity of Houston 10 37,000 $674 million Houston, Texas 1927Rice University 10 6,799 $3.6 billion Houston, Texas 1891Southern Methodist University (SMU) 5 10,693 $1.37 billion University Park, Texas (Dallas) 1911University of Texas at El Paso (UTEP) 98 20,542 $151 million El Paso, Texas 1914Tulane University 51 11,157 $807 million New Orleans, Louisiana 1834University of Tulsa 61 4,165 $915 million Tulsa, Oklahoma 1894University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) 40 18,047 $332 million Birmingham, Alabama 1969University of Central Florida (UCF) 19 53,644 $114 million Orlando, Florida 1963East Carolina University (ECU) 103 27,677 $91 million Greenville, North Carolina 1907Marshall University 63 13,584 $60 million Huntington, West Virginia 1837University of Memphis 50 21,424 $183 million Memphis, Tennessee 1912University of Southern Mississippi (USM) 167 16,050 $81 million Hattiesburg, Mississippi 1910 University at Buffalo 52 28,054 $566 million Buffalo, New York 1846Temple * 4 31,600 $237 million Philadelphia, PA 1884Texas Christian University 5 8,749 $974 million Fort Worth, Texas Big East Schools Institution TV Market Total Enrollment Endowment Location FoundedUniversity of cincinnati 33 39,667 1 billion Cincinnati, Ohio 1819University of Connecticut[13] ? 20,846 336 million Storrs, Connecticut 1881DePaul University 3 16,199 402 million Chicago, Illinois 1898Georgetown University 9 7,092 1 billion Washington, D.C. 1789University of Louisville[14] 49 15,125 796 million Louisville, Kentucky 1798Marquette University 35 8,012 337 million Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1881University of Notre Dame 91 8,371 6.5 billion Notre Dame, Indiana 1842University of Pittsburgh 23 17,427 1.8 billion Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 1787Providence College 53 3,938 111 million Providence, Rhode Island 1917Rutgers University 1 28,031 654 million New Brunswick, New Jersey 1766St. John's University 1 14,983 267 million Queens, New York 1870Seton Hall University 1 5,245 147 million South Orange, New Jersey 1856University of South Florida 14 34,447 328 million Tampa, Florida 1956Syracuse University 83 13,736 646 million Syracuse, New York 1870Villanova University 4 6,335 335 million Villanova, Pennsylvania 1842West Virginia University[16] ? 21,720 430 million Morgantown, West Virginia 1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHuckItDeep Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,251 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/21/2007 Share Posted June 18, 2010 my choices if anyone ever gets stolen from big east1. memphis2. tulane3. houstan4. TCU5. Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbulls Posted June 19, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 275 Reputation: 77 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/14/2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 My first 4 choices would be:1. Houston2. TCU3. Memphis4. ECUFor me, it gets kinda tough after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigibull Posted June 19, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Share Posted June 19, 2010 The Big East should start thinking more long term instead of the usual rejects. Georgia State is starting their first season this year. They have a 28,000 student body with 100,000 alumni living in the immediate Atlanta area. They are going to be playing their games in a NFL stadium. The Georgia Dome. Sound familiar. Their coach is Bill Curry a former coach at Geogia Tech, Alabama and Kentucky. He has been the SEC and ACC coach of the year. The Big East should offer them right now with entry date around five years down the road. With a Big East invitation already in hand, they would have some top flight talent when they are ready in five years to join the conference. It would add a presence in an area the Big East currently has no teams which is home to alot of high school talent. It would add a large media market. It would fill in the geographic gap between USF and the rest of the Big East. It would probably give USF a natural rival with the similarities between the two schools, and the Falcons and Bucs already being rivals. If UCF, Memphis and ECU brought any value, they would already have been invited. Think long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raetus Posted June 19, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,037 Reputation: 309 Days Won: 12 Joined: 01/31/2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I had to check my calendar first, but sure enough... it is not April 1st. Was the last post serious?You want to offer a school that hasn't even played football yet a golden ticket BCS invite? If they do indeed show growth, it isn't like they are going to be snatched up before we can offer them. Right now we are trying to keep our BCS status. Not give it away by offering teams that make us look even weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted June 20, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I would take Georgia Southern over Georgia State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigibull Posted June 20, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Yeah Raetus, giving an invite to Memphis which has historically been one of the worst major college programs in the country will really open eyes around the country. ESPN and Fox will probably start an immediate bidding war which will drive the revenues of the Big East through the roof. Your not going to lure a BCS team from any other league, and no member of the current CUSA members will bring any thing of value tv contract wise. If the BE is going to survive, they are going to have to think outside the boxWe got a BCS invite in what our 8th year of existence. I'm proposing Georgia State in their 6th year of existence. I can see why you think I'm totally delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raetus Posted June 21, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,037 Reputation: 309 Days Won: 12 Joined: 01/31/2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I think you are delusional because currently, Georgia State and myself have played the same amount of Division 1 football.Memphis has six conference titles and is 4 and 3 in bowl games; I'm not saying they should get the invite or they shouldn't get the invite, but when coupled with their basketball success they are a hands down better selection than Georgia State.You can't sanely propose Georgia State in their 6th year because, you have no idea what the team will be like in six years. What if years 1-6 go like thisYear 1: 0-12Year 2: 0-12Year 3: 0-12Year 4: 0-12Year 5: 0-12Year 6: 0-12 Probation and loss of scholarships for recruiting violations.How is offering Georgia State an invite to become active six years from now going to help with anything tv contract wise? No network is going to be able to monetize their worth until they know what they bring to the table. As of right now, no one knows what they bring to the table. If you want to wait a few years and see how they are progressing, then that is fine and maybe they'll be a great addition. I am not saying that Georgia State is a definitively bad selection, but giving them an open invite upon reaching year six of existence and no other conditions is a dumb idea; I don't know any simpler way to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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