Bull Matrix Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,485 Reputation: 2,940 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I am kind of glad that USF did not make a bowl game because the fan support for that would be embarrassing. Hopefully, USF keeps winning, but not get the bowl invite until the fans jump on the bandwagon. Can you imagine how bad our fan turnout would be if USF made the GatorBowl next season?? The BIG EAST would surely lose that bowl because USF would not be able to sell enough tickets. I know I am coming down hard on USF right now, but I am sick and tired of our laid back atittude right now. No wonder there are no partys for being invited to the BIG EAST because noone gives a crap about USF. The truth hurts, but it has to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFFan Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 585 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I am kind of glad that USF did not make a bowl game because the fan support for that would be embarrassing. Hopefully, USF keeps winning, but not get the bowl invite until the fans jump on the bandwagon. Can you imagine how bad our fan turnout would be if USF made the GatorBowl next season?? The BIG EAST would surely lose that bowl because USF would not be able to sell enough tickets. I know I am coming down hard on USF right now, but I am sick and tired of our laid back atittude right now. No wonder there are no partys for being invited to the BIG EAST because noone gives a crap about USF. The truth hurts, but it has to be said. I'm as sick as anybody about the attendance situation, but I think you're way off base on this one. Let's say that USF had gotten to the Gator Bowl this year as the Big East representative (the bowl you mentioned). We would have had to have finished somewhere closer to 8-3. This being USF's first ever bowl game and requiring virtually no travel, I guarantee you USF would have sold out their allotment of bowl tickets and then some. Throw in that the opponent is Florida State, and it's a dream come true for many USF fans. As has been said, the fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork. Now, with that said, losing is certainly not the only problem. Our attendance woes have been largely brought on by our own athletic department. When you sell your soul to the devil to get your game on TV and move the kickoffs to 11 am, you alienate the people who you're counting on to buy those tickets. When you can't be bothered to market your product, you're just counting on your faithful alumni to show up and attend the game. There doesn't seem to be a creative thinker anywhere in the whole damned athletic department. You want students at an 11 am kickoff? You create the equivalent of Greenbergopolis at RJS on Friday night and have a pancake breakfast before the game. You offer $1000 to the fraternity/sorority that brings the most fans to the game toward their new house. You hire local radio stations to broadcast from outside the stadium the morning of the game. You offer to play the intramural championship game at halftime of the game. You hit every lecture in every big classroom on Thursday or Friday before the game. There is no excuse whatsoever for not filling the student section every game. USFFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted December 10, 2004 usffan for marketing director of usf athleticsbb2000 you will be really glad next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,485 Reputation: 2,940 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 USF would neve sell out their allotment for tickets. USF does not travel well at all, and their home attendence sucks. If I was on the bowl committee, I would not chose USF because of the lack of support by the fans. USF could not sell any of their ticket allotments for the UL game which was pretty embarrassing because we were still in it. I doubt USF will be able to sell more than 5k tickets to the Gator Bowl. That is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldad Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 365 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I don't think my son or any of the other players share your opinion and either do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,784 Reputation: 863 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Huh? Are you a working adult or a student?Did you attend any road games this year? How many do you hit per year? Personally, I'm only good for one per year and it definately depends on the opponent and locale. Next fall, it'll probably be 'Cuse.USF would travel well to a bowl game. Why? Because to get there you have to WIN your way in. This business about winning the next two out of three to become eligible (not invited, eligible) wore me out. The easiest way to get into a bowl...win. So I'd be leery about saying that fan response to a 4-7 team is indicitive of what USF would or would not do. BTW: The away games that I travel to, they're tied directly to locale. If I'm going to burn a vacation day, there better be something better than Hattiesburg, Fort Worth, Louisville, or Cincinnati to warrant the expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79 Bull Posted December 10, 2004 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 686 Content Count: 7,657 Reputation: 1,218 Days Won: 6 Joined: 07/10/2003 Share Posted December 10, 2004 BTW: The away games that I travel to, they're tied directly to locale. If I'm going to burn a vacation day, there better be something better than Hattiesburg, Fort Worth, Louisville, or Cincinnati to warrant the expense. You ever been to Syracuse? I'm not sure I would burn a vacation day for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodknightfl Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 677 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/2003 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Im glad u didnt make a bowl too....LOL : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,784 Reputation: 863 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted December 10, 2004 You ever been to Syracuse? I'm not sure I would burn a vacation day for that. You're not paying attention. The Syracuse game is in addition to spending some vacation time in New York....hence the previous reference to Hattiesburg & Fort Worth. We've done the Manhattan gig, now we can do the upstate thing. I do not travel just to watch a three-hour football game. I'm a bulls fan, but I do have my limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutt Posted December 10, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 238 Content Count: 4,139 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/20/2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I gotta agree with a lot of the views, but bottom line boils down to wins. Every team goes through it, wins + enthusiasm = FANS. Aint' no two ways about it. You wanna be big time, GET INVOLVED and bring friends, Wear your Green & Gold, and buy a licence plate for your car. Every little thing helps. Enthusiasm is contagious !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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